xr manual owners

[jetute]

  WBT56 said:

  jetute said:

  WBT56 said:

I must say I really don't understand this need to skip downshift. T will go second to fourth, but that is about the only skip shift it will not baulk at. Coming back from fifth, what speed are you downshifting at? The gate interlock plate in a T5 is angle cut to allow smoothness from fourth to fifth. If you go from fifth to third you are going around the sharp edge of this cut and the stick will tend to catch on the lip. You should find that if you depress the clutch and go from fifth to fourth to third and then let the clutch out, this will still be a quicker shift than fifth to third. Ben.

I realise what you are saying but if I happen to get stuck behind a truck on a two lane highway slowing down to 8okmh, and I see a gap in the fast lane which is travelling at 100kmh... I should be able to bang my car into third without going into fourth so that I can comfortably and safely make this gap.... I have driven many a car b4 and never had to worry about whether it is safe or not for me to change lanes..

I would have looked at this a different way. You should not be in fifth at 80km/h. If you downshift to an appopriate gear, then the gear for the overtaking is only one gear away. Just a thought. Ben.

damn slowcoaches!! only kidding... for you yeah maybe.. but not for me...

anyway, I think I will look at that herrod quickshift one of the guys wrote about... maybe that will help....

And as one of my posts said previously... I dont do this often, but if I do feel like or need to do it... I should be able to... that's just my point of view as humble as it may be...

[Pretzel]

Checked mine this evening (Without it moving) and have the same issue where it misses the gate for 3rd gear. I have to pull the stick back slightly to get over a small step of some sort in the box before it will allow me to push up into third. It seems when this happens to not line up with 4th properly either, but as you select 4th the stick moves to the left slightly !

Making the change whilst driving seems to be ok, because as I select the neutral position rather than just popping the selector out of 5th, I must be pulling it down enough to get over the little step, although I'm not trying to make the change quickly when I do this so I am probably allowing for it as well !

So put me down as having the same gearbox selection as yourself, the only other thing my box does do is the crunch into 5th gear if I use 2nd to get to say 100KM/Hr then if I change into 5th (Not a quick shifting action, but not a grandpa action) I get a crunch !

[justind]

  WBT56 said:

  jetute said:

  WBT56 said:

I must say I really don't understand this need to skip downshift. T will go second to fourth, but that is about the only skip shift it will not baulk at. Coming back from fifth, what speed are you downshifting at? The gate interlock plate in a T5 is angle cut to allow smoothness from fourth to fifth. If you go from fifth to third you are going around the sharp edge of this cut and the stick will tend to catch on the lip. You should find that if you depress the clutch and go from fifth to fourth to third and then let the clutch out, this will still be a quicker shift than fifth to third. Ben.

I realise what you are saying but if I happen to get stuck behind a truck on a two lane highway slowing down to 8okmh, and I see a gap in the fast lane which is travelling at 100kmh... I should be able to bang my car into third without going into fourth so that I can comfortably and safely make this gap.... I have driven many a car b4 and never had to worry about whether it is safe or not for me to change lanes..

I would have looked at this a different way. You should not be in fifth at 80km/h. If you downshift to an appopriate gear, then the gear for the overtaking is only one gear away. Just a thought. Ben.

The manual actually recomends for better driving tips that you use 5th at 70km. I personally disagree with this but it is in the manual..

Driving

necessary according to driving conditions, vehicle load, road gradient,

etc.

Shift pattern Recommended shift speed

1st to 2nd 20 km/h

2nd to 3rd 35 km/h

3rd to 4th 55-60 km/h

4th to 5th 70-75 km/h

page 133 so one could and should be doing 80kms in 5th gear and may need to change to 3rd on a short shift to overtake.

[crisso]

  justind said:

Shift pattern Recommended shift speed

1st to 2nd 20 km/h

2nd to 3rd 35 km/h

3rd to 4th 55-60 km/h

4th to 5th 70-75 km/h

hahahahaha this is what I think:

1st to 2nd 50 km/h

2nd to 3rd 80 km/h

3rd to 4th 110 km/h

4th to 5th 140 km/h

oh, and for bcl

5th to 6th 170 km/h

I could be wrong however

[WBT56]

Ignore the manual. The bottom line is, if you are not leaving a standing start,and you are not doing 100k, then if you are below 2000rpm you are in the wrong gear.

Slowcoach my arse. If someone is in fifth at 80 and I am in my choice of gear at 80 and the flag drops, I know who will win. (or be less likely to get creamed by a truck, depending on scenario). Ben.

[jetute]

  WBT56 said:

Slowcoach my arse. If someone is in fifth at 80 and I am in my choice of gear at 80 and the flag drops, I know who will win.

who mentioned racing?? not me.... am trying to build a scenario where this gear change might be needed...

yeah it might be the wrong gear to be in when doing 80kmh... but tell me you have never had to break while driving at 100kmh in 5th??

[jetute]

  justind said:

page 133 so one could and should be doing 80kms in 5th gear and may need to change to 3rd on a short shift to overtake.

agreed

[WBT56]

  jetute said:

yeah it might be the wrong gear to be in when doing 80kmh... but tell me you have never had to break while driving at 100kmh in 5th??

Never. It is a matter of reading the road ahead, downshifting and engine braking to the speed of the slower traffic. You are always in a more suitable gear then, and you don't have to struggle with an inappropriate shift to gain the required performance to safely complete the next manouvre. Ben.

[jetute]

  WBT56 said:

  jetute said:

yeah it might be the wrong gear to be in when doing 80kmh... but tell me you have never had to break while driving at 100kmh in 5th??

Never. It is a matter of reading the road ahead, downshifting and engine braking to the speed of the slower traffic. You are always in a more suitable gear then, and you don't have to struggle with an inappropriate shift to gain the required performance to safely complete the next manouvre. Ben.

great driving.... with skills as good as yours... you should be on the race track....

as for reading the road ahead... sounds like you only drive on straight city roads, with no merging lanes, nice sweeping bends or those people who suddenly just decide to change lanes right in front of you.

and if its no to all of the above, well maybe you just have astronomically good luck... or maybe its just that your driving skills far outreach mine (which in this case seems to be the correct answer)