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  jetute said:
  JB said:
I'll check it out tommorrow Jetute, Good question I have never notied it off the top of my head, and I have downchanged as such before.

Just a question, how many k's has you T done as I have noticed the more k's the more the box loosens up dramatically.

I am on 13k and when I first got it it struggled just to find gears as it was so tight!

Thanks JB... I have 5900 km right now.... The only problems with the box are the down change and that I get major gear stick rattle in third...

I get the stick rattle in 3rd as well and I quote the Dealer "within acceptable parameters"!!

My Arse it is!!

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yeah, 5th to 3rd is not as simple as it should be - but as ppl have said, live with it, I rarely go from 5th to 3rd anyway, 5th to 4th is awesome!

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"Live with it"!

What sort of wanky response is that guys - if we proposed the same response to the brake shudder issue would that be satisfactory as well?

I hardly think the issues with the T5 and the Turbo should be dismissed so readily - we know the box is a dog - we know it's not an appropriate box for a car of this power being on the edge of its tolerences etc etc. This is a legitimate issue that should be discussed and a general action by this forum undertaken.

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Thanks Craig, You said it the warentee is for us to use and factored in the price of the vehicle. It is not for Ford to extract extra profit from us. For your info the AU series vehicle cost Ford motor co. Approx $14,500. How much mark up is there. Before anyone asks I work in the Automotive industry and am often privy to shuch info from reliable sorces. I am unsure of the cost of a BA but when you look at the original list price of an AU base model there wasn't much difference compared to the base price BA.

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Have you tried to go from 3rd to 5th ? Is just as difficult ?

I would suggest you do what has already been suggested and you do the movement from 5th, 4th then relaease the cluitch on 3rd. This will avoid the problem and most likely make the shift faster. I would think the 5th to 3rd is more a design issue than a warranty issue. It is difficult for the selectors to work perfectly in every combination of gears. I do not agree with the "live with it" attitude, but you will need to ajust your driving style to suite the car.

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Hey Jetute, tried it today without thinking about it and then realised I had done it later and no probs. It's not the smoothest box around and you sort of have to go around into 5th, it's not quick but it went it, then when I tried it deliberately it would'nt go straight in! :hrmm:

I also change upwards every now and then, but from my racing days tend to double the clutch from 3rd to 5th to make it go in that little bit easier, and not put as much strain on the box.

They are not the tighest boxes going around (gearbox boys, I can already here you sniggering :lol: ) I suppose as suggested it's only a Ford, If you get the chance to drive an M3 or 911 then you will see where the extra $$ have gone!

I would suggest if your not happy with it get the dealer to check it and have it put on record in case of probs in the future for Warranty. :smilielol:

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Thanks guys for all your responses.... But my stick wont even line up with third if the car is turned off and I try the same thing?? and today for the first time I started getting the gearstick rattle in second as well.. Dealer asked me to provide a car that doesnt have the problem to prove to him its not normal.... also for the driveline shunt... luckily my brother bought one 2 months before I did and he doesnt suffer from either and said he is prepared to take it to the dealer to show that his car doesnt do it..

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  WBT56 said:
I must say I really don't understand this need to skip downshift. T will go second to fourth, but that is about the only skip shift it will not baulk at. Coming back from fifth, what speed are you downshifting at? The gate interlock plate in a T5 is angle cut to allow smoothness from fourth to fifth. If you go from fifth to third you are going around the sharp edge of this cut and the stick will tend to catch on the lip. You should find that if you depress the clutch and go from fifth to fourth to third and then let the clutch out, this will still be a quicker shift than fifth to third. Ben.

I realise what you are saying but if I happen to get stuck behind a truck on a two lane highway slowing down to 8okmh, and I see a gap in the fast lane which is travelling at 100kmh... I should be able to bang my car into third without going into fourth so that I can comfortably and safely make this gap.... I have driven many a car b4 and never had to worry about whether it is safe or not for me to change lanes..

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  crisso said:
yeah, 5th to 3rd is not as simple as it should be - but as ppl have said, live with it, I rarely go from 5th to 3rd anyway, 5th to 4th is awesome!

Chris

"As simple as it should be"????.... can take me up to 10 secs to get the thing in.. and just because I dont have bad brake shudder I would never say to some1 who has, quote "live with it"... they shouldnt have to... its attitudes like this that allow car manufacturers to get away with more then they should...

please dont think im having a go at you... cause im not.... just trying to point out that different people find different things more annoying then others. and that we shouldnt have to put up with any of it..

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  jetute said:
  crisso said:
yeah, 5th to 3rd is not as simple as it should be - but as ppl have said, live with it, I rarely go from 5th to 3rd anyway, 5th to 4th is awesome!

Chris

"As simple as it should be"????.... can take me up to 10 secs to get the thing in.. and just because I dont have bad brake shudder I would never say to some1 who has, quote "live with it"... they shouldnt have to... its attitudes like this that allow car manufacturers to get away with more then they should...

please dont think im having a go at you... cause im not.... just trying to point out that different people find different things more annoying then others. and that we shouldnt have to put up with any of it..

crisso did say that it's NOT as simple as it should be.

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