natho Member 10 Member For: 14y 2m 11d Posted 09/05/24 01:57 PM Share Posted 09/05/24 01:57 PM I haven't done that on any car, and I don't recall it being a step when following workshop manuals either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz084 Member 51 Member For: 10y 4m 4d Posted 16/05/24 06:25 AM Author Share Posted 16/05/24 06:25 AM Have been working on this slowly, still need to purchase an engine crane...have been keeping an eye out on marketplace. What's the best way to get to the top Bellhouse bolts...I remember last time I dropped the transmission mount and it tilted the engine enough backwards to get access to them, being the territory is awd makes it interesting. Another thing I remember is the rear of the engine has a sensor and wire going to it, last time I completely ripped it of not knowing it was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natho Member 10 Member For: 14y 2m 11d Posted 06/06/24 12:00 PM Share Posted 06/06/24 12:00 PM (edited) I've done exactly that to get to the top bellhousing bolts in the past on falcons. Not sure if it was needed on the territory or not, but I do remember using an impact gun and an impact rated uni joint. That's the cylinder head temperature sensor you're thinking of. Pretty common to break them, just need to be cautious of it as you're lifting the engine in/out. Edited 06/06/24 12:01 PM by natho 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz084 Member 51 Member For: 10y 4m 4d Posted 13/06/24 07:12 AM Author Share Posted 13/06/24 07:12 AM Ok well engine is out.Pulled of the sump and timing cover,most of the leaks seem to have been coming from the half moon seals.Shame seeing the engine was rebuilt 18months ago.it has the ross pistons and spool rods with heavy duty valve springs.Not sure if I should do the oil pump gears,im only chasing 300awkw....but being the f6x variant im wondering if I should do them for resale value.Id prefere not to honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz084 Member 51 Member For: 10y 4m 4d Posted 13/06/24 08:00 AM Author Share Posted 13/06/24 08:00 AM Just seen these on ebay from intune motorsport XR6 Turbo oil pump fitted with 4340 billet gears, steel backing plate | eBay Any good or should I stay away? as for the you tube videos,they explain the gear and backing plate install but not the spring or release valve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Puff Gold Donating Members 15,958 Member For: 9y 10m 12d Gender: Male Location: South Australia Posted 13/06/24 08:34 AM Share Posted 13/06/24 08:34 AM That pump would be fine. To remove the spring you undo the cap, there's a little bit to locate the spring, there's the spring and there's the relief plunger. Very easy to work out when it's in front of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz084 Member 51 Member For: 10y 4m 4d Posted 13/06/24 08:40 AM Author Share Posted 13/06/24 08:40 AM Would I be better off buying that pump or doing it myself dollar wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Puff Gold Donating Members 15,958 Member For: 9y 10m 12d Gender: Male Location: South Australia Posted 13/06/24 09:18 AM Share Posted 13/06/24 09:18 AM It depends. Cheap gears may not be finished properly and have a sharp edge on them still that will eat the pump or backing plate within a few hundred km. Also you gotta watch the laser etching, it has to be smooth otherwise it will eat the pump too. You can hand file them though or you can pay extra for ones already nice and smooth. That pump is only $500 and it has billet gears, spring and steel backing plate, you can't really go wrong (providing it doesn't have those sharp edge issues) and wouldn't be saving much doing it yourself. You might save $100 or so. If I was gonna buy one, I'd open it up to check first anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz084 Member 51 Member For: 10y 4m 4d Posted 13/06/24 09:26 AM Author Share Posted 13/06/24 09:26 AM Ok thanks Puff. Will the cam gears move on me when I undo the chain,or should I just resest the cam timing to tdc and turn the engine until I know its right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Puff Gold Donating Members 15,958 Member For: 9y 10m 12d Gender: Male Location: South Australia Posted 13/06/24 09:57 AM Share Posted 13/06/24 09:57 AM Yes they'll move and yes you have to set the timing again. You can ignore the chain marks, just ensure the harmonic balancer is lined up to the mark on the timing cover and both dots on the cam phasers are pointed straight up. They are frequently a quarter to half a tooth of centre, you'll know if it a tooth out cos it's a fair bit off centre. Here's an engine manual, have fun Falcon-2008-Engine-Service-Manual.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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