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BF2 - No resistance (cranking) from ignition + ICC security code.


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Hi all,

 

Back again - 2007 BF Mk2 XR6T.

 

I have been dealing with a troublesome battery and took it out to do a proper deep cycle and condition on my MX-5 charger.

Ended up going away for a couple of weeks and didn't put the battery back in the car. Now the ICC requires the code (which isn't in my manual?!?) and the ignition has no resistance in the barrel after turning on the electrics. 

So all the lights, electrics and radio (except with code issue) work but once it goes passed that step in the barrel there is no resistance that starts cranking the engine.

 

So am I dealing with a single issue or two simultaneous issues?

I.e. is the security code on the ICC disengaged starting the engine from the ignition?

Or do I have a security code issue and a problem with the ignition barrel separately?

 

Also - is there an easy way to get the code? I can't actually drive the car to a ford dealer to prove the vehicle is mine.

 

As always - appreciate the help guys,

Cheers

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I ain't no expert but that sounds like 2 issues. The same thing happened with my ignition barrel, the back of it had popped out. Take it apart and put it back together so it stays together. Again no expert but I'm pretty sure the code will just go away after you start the car for the first time.

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^^ Puff is correct that the code prompt will go away once you start the car the first time.

 

Also, his suggestion is good to rebuild the barrel to ensure it stays together. It might be OK as-is for a while, but it also might break, so best to get it done properly sooner rather than later.

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Properly = hitting it with a hammer. It will hold it together and stop the back from coming out again. If you wanna be fancy about it, use a punch and a hammer, you'll see where it needs to be hit.

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Hi Puff & k31th!


My apologies for the delayed response. I just checked my account settings and email notifications wasn't turned on so I had no idea you both had replied.

So a big thank you for the info. Interesting in that there is surprisingly f**k all videos of this on YouTube except for businesses who fix this on the daily. 

Given what I've seen and you have explained - I'll see if I can get the rear housing out and hope it hasn't sheared the casted steps/stages. 

Short of this, $300 for a machined aluminium housing that will prevent it from ever happening again seems like a small price to pay for my baby.

 

Either way - I'll report back once I have accomplished... something. lol.

Check back in soon - thanks again fellas!

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Ended up with a similar issue myself. When turning the key to crank nothing would happen. Click back to off and try again and off she goes. This happened once every 3 months or so. Then the last couple of days I suddenly need 3 or 4 goes to start the car.

Confirmed with a test light there is no power through the starter circuit from the ignition switch on the start attempts that fail. So just ordered a new ignition switch.

Went non-genuine as it was literally 10x the price to get genuine.

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Alright - so finally got some free time to check the ignition barrel, and sure enough it was floating disconnected in the steering column housing.

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And does anyone know how to put these mystical beasts back together?

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Put da ting in da ting and hit it with a hammer and punch. Sorry I can't be more specific, it was ages ago that I fixed mine :declare:

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Haha - that was extremely specific so no need to apologise! I did get them back in some fashion but it doesn't hold, sorta just pops back out.

Thought there might be some like rotating lockup trick I'm missing. Also checked Ellerys & Haynes repair manuals which weren't any explicit help.

I put in a request for quote through a locksmith's so we'll see how it goes. Otherwise - $299 for a machined housing kit with fitting tool and instruction book might just be the way to go.

Either way - I'll report back when there is more to report! :) 

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You can see where it has already been bent to hold it in, it just needs more bending.

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