Frank Castle 85 Member 57 Member For: 4y 5m 25d Posted 04/12/21 05:16 AM Author Share Posted 04/12/21 05:16 AM Hopefully so man. Yep, I hear you on that. Had all my seats redone for my springs. I just wish if I knew I was going to spend this type of money and time, I would have just bought a HP Junkie engine. Would've saved a lot of time and money. I only wish I knew about him prior to all this going to sh*t haha. On 04/12/2021 at 4:42 AM, Puffwagon said: Yeah nah there can be slight issues with a base tune, it could be a tad lean in some areas which can cause stalling. So quick question, how much power are you looking for? A haltech and heavy arse valve springs are plenty overkill for a stock headgasket among other things. Expand Hey mate, To be honest man, Just want a nice reliable car now. I got the Haltech for cheap as sh*t. The only thing stock on this engine are the cams, lifters and crank. I don't plan on driving it until it's tuned. Currently got a Walbro 460 with Bosch 1000cc, plan is to add possible add a surge tank. To give you an idea what's done to this car, the only thing stock is the gearbox, diff and axles. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/96360-retarded-timing/page/8/#findComment-1709522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Gold Donating Members 16,348 Member For: 10y 3m 22d Gender: Not Telling Posted 04/12/21 05:48 AM Share Posted 04/12/21 05:48 AM Sounds like it'll work out for you now, fingers crossed anyway. To give you some piece of mind, it doesn't matter how lean it goes running around off boost. Lean doesn't hurt a motor at low power levels. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/96360-retarded-timing/page/8/#findComment-1709524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Tucker Donating Members 703 Member For: 5y 10m 21d Posted 04/12/21 09:01 AM Share Posted 04/12/21 09:01 AM On 04/12/2021 at 5:16 AM, Frank Castle 85 said: I just wish if I knew I was going to spend this type of money and time, I would have just bought a HP Junkie engine. Would've saved a lot of time and money. I only wish I knew about him prior to all this going to sh*t haha. Expand I actually think the most important thing for engine builds is genuine warranty and local workshop support if there are issues. Assuming you can't do it yourself like Puff Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/96360-retarded-timing/page/8/#findComment-1709525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Gold Donating Members 16,348 Member For: 10y 3m 22d Gender: Not Telling Posted 04/12/21 11:25 AM Share Posted 04/12/21 11:25 AM Sure I can do it myself but... A tuner can hurt a built motor and so can a poor build. Neither can be usually picked initially when it goes south, and deciding who is responsible can be a headache...then having someone pay is another headache again. You need to have them done together for any hope of a genuine guaranteed warranty claim. I won't warranty a tune unless I build the motor and vice versa. Up until recently I also won't do mates rates. Sounds harsh maybe, but it's a specialised skillset and I, along with others, did not learn this overnight or for free. Haha I'll give one or two of you farks a freebee but yeah nah yeah nah. And yeah nah yeah nah yeah, you do want some kind of reassurance that your money is safe, which is understandable. #bigmoney #hardwork #lockedtunes #boxofgoon 1 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/96360-retarded-timing/page/8/#findComment-1709526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 29,510 Member For: 17y 1m 12d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 04/12/21 11:30 AM Share Posted 04/12/21 11:30 AM On 04/12/2021 at 11:25 AM, Puffwagon said: #boxofgoon Expand this explains a lot about your post just now haha Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/96360-retarded-timing/page/8/#findComment-1709527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Castle 85 Member 57 Member For: 4y 5m 25d Posted 04/12/21 11:35 AM Author Share Posted 04/12/21 11:35 AM On 04/12/2021 at 9:01 AM, Tom Tucker said: I actually think the most important thing for engine builds is genuine warranty and local workshop support if there are issues. Assuming you can't do it yourself like Puff Expand Yeah man 100%. The problem is, my car went to a 'shop' on the Sunny Coast and some how that absolute legend put three valve springs upside down which caused two bent valves and a cracked ringlet. I was none the wiser and drove the car around for three weeks and then on the highway lost compression and yep cylinder three gone. Went to another shop in Brisbane and the people that skimmed it and replaced the two bent valves. Thought it was fixed - wasn't. So I spent the next few months honing the block for oversized pistons upgraded all the rods etc etc. I was chasing and replacing everything the scanners were saying was the fault, phasers, sensors and ECU. Whatever needed to be replaced was replaced with highly recommended parts. I thought since the engine was out, I'd upgrade the drive/tail shaft, clutch etc etc. I had my car towed away from that shop and started pulled the engine apart again. Replaced the head and wallah, retardation solved. But yeah as mentioned, happy the car starts and can drives but limited and that's obviously because of the base map. Looking forward to the surge tanks (there some bloody options there) and seeing what I can put down. Not going for 1000hp but if I hit somewhere between 500-700hp and be completely safe I'm fine with that. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/96360-retarded-timing/page/8/#findComment-1709528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Gold Donating Members 16,348 Member For: 10y 3m 22d Gender: Not Telling Posted 04/12/21 11:48 AM Share Posted 04/12/21 11:48 AM On 04/12/2021 at 11:35 AM, Frank Castle 85 said: Not going for 1000hp but if I hit somewhere between 500-700hp and be completely safe I'm fine with that Expand You'll get that no worries and it'll be safe all day every day. Can go more but stock headgasket won't be happy. That's a giant headfark that you went through mate, sorry to hear about it. On 04/12/2021 at 11:30 AM, k31th said: this explains a lot about your post just now haha Expand So when you getting that 255, f6 injectors and that base tune...so you can drive here and turn it up?!?! 1 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/96360-retarded-timing/page/8/#findComment-1709529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 29,510 Member For: 17y 1m 12d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 04/12/21 12:20 PM Share Posted 04/12/21 12:20 PM lol my silver BA XR6T came with nizzy injectors & 'cooler & dump + cat, 255lph & tune when I bought it... it does need a new tune, to be fair, as when I bought it, the boost control wasn't plumbed correctly so was boosting to the moon... yikes... easy fixed, but I don't think it makes the claimed "290rwkw" based on the previous tune after correctly plumbing it, so something is suspicious... Does have a BF motor, too haha, so previous owner likely popped the BA one at some point. When shall I come over? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/96360-retarded-timing/page/8/#findComment-1709530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Gold Donating Members 16,348 Member For: 10y 3m 22d Gender: Not Telling Posted 04/12/21 12:39 PM Share Posted 04/12/21 12:39 PM Hmmmm sounds like there is some digging to be done. Gotta verify the injectors and up to you if you want push the motor past the usual ba limits. At least we can give it the best tune it is happy with, which is the ideal result, regardless of numbers. I'm free in a couple of weeks so after then is fine. Will pm for further info Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/96360-retarded-timing/page/8/#findComment-1709531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Tucker Donating Members 703 Member For: 5y 10m 21d Posted 04/12/21 10:53 PM Share Posted 04/12/21 10:53 PM On 04/12/2021 at 11:25 AM, Puffwagon said: Sure I can do it myself but... A tuner can hurt a built motor and so can a poor build. Neither can be usually picked initially when it goes south, and deciding who is responsible can be a headache...then having someone pay is another headache again. You need to have them done together for any hope of a genuine guaranteed warranty claim. I won't warranty a tune unless I build the motor and vice versa. Up until recently I also won't do mates rates. Sounds harsh maybe, but it's a specialised skillset and I, along with others, did not learn this overnight or for free. Haha I'll give one or two of you farks a freebee but yeah nah yeah nah. And yeah nah yeah nah yeah, you do want some kind of reassurance that your money is safe, which is understandable. #bigmoney #hardwork #lockedtunes #boxofgoon Expand Yep, very true. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/96360-retarded-timing/page/8/#findComment-1709534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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