Frank Castle 85 Member 57 Member For: 4y 15d Posted 10/08/21 08:12 AM Share Posted 10/08/21 08:12 AM Hey folks, Does anyone have an idea what could possibly be throwing my timing out so bad from pos 17 to neg 57 when getting to temp and idling it chokes the car out to stall? I've replaced, ECU with Haltech, replaced the Cam phaser on the exhaust side (from one of the codes throwing up saying that was that - wasn't, swapped it to intake side and still did the same thing), changed all cam sensors with brand new ones. But yet, for some reason, we can't figure out why the car at idle retards the timing so bad, earth straps are all in their right locations. The tuner had my car for two weeks and didn't charge me anything as they could not find the problem. The timing is all bang on perfect. IT was doing this prior to me doing bottom upgrade to bigger rods and pistons. Next question, has anyone blocked off their Cam Phasers and what happened when you did? Thanks in advance legends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jas98 Member 1,030 Member For: 12y 4m 19d Gender: Male Location: Maryborough Qld Posted 10/08/21 09:30 PM Share Posted 10/08/21 09:30 PM Cam phaser issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Castle 85 Member 57 Member For: 4y 15d Posted 11/08/21 12:37 AM Author Share Posted 11/08/21 12:37 AM Hey mate, that's what I've explained. Replaced the exhaust side then swapped it with the intake side and still did the same issue. I'm about one more ice mocha away from burning it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 29,031 Member For: 16y 8m 2d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 11/08/21 12:46 AM Share Posted 11/08/21 12:46 AM he's probably realistically asking if you replaced the cam phaser itself? when you installed the replacement, did you follow the correct procedure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Castle 85 Member 57 Member For: 4y 15d Posted 11/08/21 12:49 AM Author Share Posted 11/08/21 12:49 AM Ah gotcha, nope, was done by a tuner here in Brisbane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 29,031 Member For: 16y 8m 2d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 11/08/21 12:52 AM Share Posted 11/08/21 12:52 AM well, probably worth checking with them what they exactly did with regard to the cam phaser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Castle 85 Member 57 Member For: 4y 15d Posted 11/08/21 01:13 AM Author Share Posted 11/08/21 01:13 AM Yeah did all that, my mechanic was there for everything as well. Thought I'd turn to a place that's been helpful in the past with a wealth of knowledge and see if anyone encountered a similar problem and how they fixed it. In the OG post, I did mention that the Tuner didn't charge me for any of their work as they couldn't fix it and they had the car for two weeks. The tuner is a reputable tuner and race car builder that's been in the game for 30 years. So, I'm at an end and seeing if anyone has down a VCT delete and how the car reacted after the delete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Member 564 Member For: 20y 2m 18d Gender: Male Posted 11/08/21 11:56 AM Share Posted 11/08/21 11:56 AM I have experienced similar issues and we decided to lock the cam timing. All problems instantly solved. Haltech plug and play too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Castle 85 Member 57 Member For: 4y 15d Posted 11/08/21 09:49 PM Author Share Posted 11/08/21 09:49 PM (edited) And what happen when you did mate? I've been considering this or ordering Atomic Cam adjusters, just that's another 600 lol Edited 11/08/21 09:50 PM by Frank Castle 85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Member 564 Member For: 20y 2m 18d Gender: Male Posted 11/08/21 11:41 PM Share Posted 11/08/21 11:41 PM As I mentioned the cam timing was fixed and the problems went away. The motor also produced more power and performed more consistently. In my instance it was just more gains everywhere. If your having these issues just lock the cam timing, problem solved. It could be oiling related, and it just might not be able to be tuned out as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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