k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 29,185 Member For: 16y 9m 22d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 08/08/19 03:44 AM Share Posted 08/08/19 03:44 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arronm Dropping a turd Gold Donating Members 9,520 Member For: 17y 3m 5d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 08/08/19 04:06 AM Share Posted 08/08/19 04:06 AM They start with 195 so it would be a gain of about 35rwkw. Be a real push. I reckon they go from about 155 to 175- 180rwkw tops unless cams and head work etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhazza New Member 20 Member For: 5y 8m 25d Gender: Male Location: Brisvegas Posted 08/08/19 04:08 AM Author Share Posted 08/08/19 04:08 AM I thought they were 200 on 95/8 octane, so wouldnt the fuel make a difference? all be it a little one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 29,185 Member For: 16y 9m 22d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 08/08/19 04:31 AM Share Posted 08/08/19 04:31 AM nah, 190 or 195 (depending on model) but they're the same basically... at the flywheel, so around 160 or lower rwkw. No way you're going to even get it 200rwkw without significant engine work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiftyOne Bronze Donating Members 1,145 Member For: 11y 7m Gender: Male Posted 08/08/19 05:00 AM Share Posted 08/08/19 05:00 AM Way back in the day there were a few around on fordmods reportedly making just shy of 200wkw. I believe they were tuned to run on 98 fairly aggressively and the limiter was raised so they could rev the freckle off it. I've got a mate with a VE SS with a KPM kit on it, centrifical blower, fuel & exhaust and they're claiming 430wkw out of that. Now that's a really strong car, the off idle torque is pretty good and it stays strong throughout the range. But my bum dyno tells me that its not 430 wheel. I think it's 430 fly. Could an NA barra make 240 wheel? Would need to ask the experts but I'm going to stay yes with cams and maybe some headwork? Next thing you'd want to ask is why; you have to rev the tits off it to get it making that power and for all that effort you'd be better off with a stock BA turbo. However, if you could make close to 200 wheel in a stock barra, for the minimal mods and a tune, maybe not too bad value 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 29,185 Member For: 16y 9m 22d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 08/08/19 05:05 AM Share Posted 08/08/19 05:05 AM @Henz bro had a around 190rwkw N/A way back with a barra that was tuned on E85 with all of the bolt ons and if I remember correctly, it also had cams and headwork...so... nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eff xr6t Member 569 Member For: 11y 4m 2d Posted 08/08/19 11:13 AM Share Posted 08/08/19 11:13 AM Well and truly achievable when speedway guys have been make 230 odd rwkw with an old 250 crossflow for years now. Should be no reason why you couldn't make 300+rwkw n/a with the right head, cam, comp and intake exhaust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 29,185 Member For: 16y 9m 22d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 08/08/19 11:34 AM Share Posted 08/08/19 11:34 AM not a chance of 300kw out of an N/A barra no matter what you do to it to remain N/A (no nitrous, either). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiftyOne Bronze Donating Members 1,145 Member For: 11y 7m Gender: Male Posted 08/08/19 11:44 AM Share Posted 08/08/19 11:44 AM 6 hours ago, k31th said: it also had cams and headwork...so... nope I'm guessing with fair more comp in the head to make use of the e85. Probably turned a lot of ethonol in to noise & heat by the sounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arronm Dropping a turd Gold Donating Members 9,520 Member For: 17y 3m 5d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 08/08/19 11:45 AM Share Posted 08/08/19 11:45 AM 30 minutes ago, eff xr6t said: Well and truly achievable when speedway guys have been make 230 odd rwkw with an old 250 crossflow for years now. Should be no reason why you couldn't make 300+rwkw n/a with the right head, cam, comp and intake exhaust hey Keith, before forced induction , this was how we made power. You would be surprised what you do with large comp, massive cams and race fuel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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