PAH Donating Members 361 Member For: 16y 3d Gender: Male Posted 21/03/19 02:19 AM Share Posted 21/03/19 02:19 AM Guys, This looks interesting: https://www.goauto.com.au/news/toyota/toyota-backs-hydrogen-economy/2019-03-20/78082.html An electric car without expensive batteries that tend to wear out in circa 10 years could be a nice way to go. What about an electric motor on each wheel to enable torque vectoring that aids cornering? Such a car would be quick. What about solar systems on our home rooftops that generate free hydrogen? But I guess we'd have to put baseball cards in the spoke to ensure that bike riders, Greenies and the PC are able to hear us coming in our whisper quiet electric car? How about sub woofers to play a V8 or V12 soundtrack? PAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodycrashboy Feeling the Love :-) Bronze Donating Members 4,421 Member For: 11y 9m 22d Gender: Male Location: Not in Cairns anymore Posted 21/03/19 02:31 AM Share Posted 21/03/19 02:31 AM The internal combustion engine runs perfectly well on hydrogen The by product out the exhaust is H2O The greenest option available to the millions of cars in the world There is no need for electric cars Only a gas conversion kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 29,151 Member For: 16y 9m 12d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 21/03/19 02:52 AM Share Posted 21/03/19 02:52 AM storage and distribution is the major failure point of hydrogen fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodycrashboy Feeling the Love :-) Bronze Donating Members 4,421 Member For: 11y 9m 22d Gender: Male Location: Not in Cairns anymore Posted 21/03/19 03:39 AM Share Posted 21/03/19 03:39 AM I agree KeefySo instead of the push for not very green electric cars, with their toxic batteries, the billions should be spent on technology for storage and distribution of hydrogen. Just about every internal combustion engine in the world can be converted to run on hydrogen As stated, the emissions are plain old water Hydrogen is also the most common element on this planetCracking hydrogen is also a problemBut again, if the cash was funneled to research in this area, there would soon be a solution People need to be educated to the fact, we don't need electric cars, just a hydrogen fuel cell in their existing car. But no that's to bloody easy BTW, there is no power loss with hydrogenWeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Stripes. All stock bar the k&n panel filter Silver Donating Members 8,061 Member For: 12y 10m 9d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 21/03/19 11:37 AM Share Posted 21/03/19 11:37 AM I definitely reckon hydrogen is the way to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossmang FREAKY Donating Members 12,433 Member For: 15y 28d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 26/03/19 10:18 AM Share Posted 26/03/19 10:18 AM I think the hydrogen is great but depends what the manufacturers build the most of, will most just go electric. or a handful like hyundai continue with hydrogen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodycrashboy Feeling the Love :-) Bronze Donating Members 4,421 Member For: 11y 9m 22d Gender: Male Location: Not in Cairns anymore Posted 26/03/19 11:09 AM Share Posted 26/03/19 11:09 AM (edited) battery's for cars suck choice magazine did a survey of a cars "greenness" a cars life from production to destruction, the cost to produce it, run it, and the cost to destroy it. the cost to the environment so to speak the Toyota Prius came in at number 50, level pegging with a GM Hummer green my ass Edited 26/03/19 11:12 AM by bloodycrashboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Andrew Gold Donating Members 2,036 Member For: 9y 9m Gender: Male Location: Canberra ACT Posted 26/03/19 11:25 PM Share Posted 26/03/19 11:25 PM How old was that article? Back when the Prius was new I used to scoff at the environmental pay back time (I think it was 8 years, and battery life was a max of 10 years so the benefit was marginal).However I read a few things lately (and I think there was some Engineering Explained stuff on this in relation to the Leaf) that shows they are much better now and while the original Prius wasn't great it mainstreamed the technology and allowed further r&d.The timeframe of the assessment matters too. If I assessed your solar after the first 12 months I'd find it had cost a ton of money and had hurt the environment. You need the long term environmental and cost savings to offset the initial damage. Having said that, the Prius is crap to drive and I would never own one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossmang FREAKY Donating Members 12,433 Member For: 15y 28d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 27/03/19 08:57 AM Share Posted 27/03/19 08:57 AM watched a few clips on yoo tube at recent motor shows, pretty much every concept car or near production car was electric or plug in so I guess that's our future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodycrashboy Feeling the Love :-) Bronze Donating Members 4,421 Member For: 11y 9m 22d Gender: Male Location: Not in Cairns anymore Posted 27/03/19 10:13 AM Share Posted 27/03/19 10:13 AM 1 hour ago, Admin (as if) said: so I guess that's our future. only if you let it be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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