Mustangman570 Member 74 Member For: 11y 3m 14d Posted 28/06/18 01:10 PM Share Posted 28/06/18 01:10 PM Obviously one motor has a turbo hanging off the side. Is there a difference in the casting number on the head or block? I know that the red valve cover is usually a turbo motor, but I think I have an NA motor with a turbo valve cover that someone put on for looks. If I pull the oil pan can I tell the difference between the two? If so what are the differences. Does anyone happen to have a picture of a stock turbo piston and stock NA piston? I though about pulling a spark plug and looking at the top of the piston with a bore scope, but I don't have a reference picture to compare. Thank you in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 29,127 Member For: 16y 9m Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 28/06/18 01:45 PM Share Posted 28/06/18 01:45 PM It'll have a hole in the exhaust side of the oil sump if it's a turbo motor. If it's an N/A, that'll be just covered over. It's probably just an N/A. The N/A pistons are relatively flat on top and the turbo ones have a recess to lower the compression ratio. Would be tough to spot on a borescope, but possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustangman570 Member 74 Member For: 11y 3m 14d Posted 28/06/18 04:11 PM Author Share Posted 28/06/18 04:11 PM This motor has a hole in the oil sup where the turbo oil drain would be. The NA motors I have all have the same boss in the pan, the hole is just blocked off. This is a really confusing motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzanz Donating Members 573 Member For: 9y 5m 9d Gender: Male Location: NZ Posted 28/06/18 04:26 PM Share Posted 28/06/18 04:26 PM Really confusing motor??? Simple as they get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4321 Bronze Donating Members 257 Member For: 10y 9m 14d Posted 28/06/18 08:40 PM Share Posted 28/06/18 08:40 PM The sumps are the same just the casting is drilled & tapped. On a turbo head & block are the same. Exhaust valves ,springs, rods & pistons are different none of which you can see from the outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 29,127 Member For: 16y 9m Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 28/06/18 09:43 PM Share Posted 28/06/18 09:43 PM I didn't say a "place where the hole should be", I said "a hole" (e.g. like 4321 said, drilled and tapped) haha The N/A motor has an obvious casting point where this hole and flange would be for the turbo drain, but there is obviously no pipe there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossmang FREAKY Donating Members 12,433 Member For: 15y 16d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 29/06/18 08:48 AM Share Posted 29/06/18 08:48 AM n/a and turbo motors are the same and same as lpg motors. both n/a and lpg motor good for 400++++ kws easily as has fpv rods. just ask clug fg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustangman570 Member 74 Member For: 11y 3m 14d Posted 29/06/18 12:44 PM Author Share Posted 29/06/18 12:44 PM 20 hours ago, tazzanz said: Really confusing motor??? Simple as they get. Try reading my whole post next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustangman570 Member 74 Member For: 11y 3m 14d Posted 29/06/18 12:47 PM Author Share Posted 29/06/18 12:47 PM On 6/29/2018 at 7:43 AM, k31th said: I didn't say a "place where the hole should be", I said "a hole" (e.g. like 4321 said, drilled and tapped) haha The N/A motor has an obvious casting point where this hole and flange would be for the turbo drain, but there is obviously no pipe there. I have attached a pic of the oil drain back on the engine that is confusing me along with a pic of a confirmed NA motor. As you can see the hole is drilled through to the pan and the 2 bolt holes are drilled and tapped. The other pic is what I was referring to by "a place where the hole should be." See why I'm confused? Red valve cover (I know a can of paint can make any valve cover red), NA exhaust manifold, Turbo intake manifold, NA fuel injectors. BUT the oil drain hole is drilled and the turbo oil supply hole is open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 29,127 Member For: 16y 9m Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 29/06/18 01:18 PM Share Posted 29/06/18 01:18 PM Are they both your motors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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