Which One Would You Take!?

[HellionXR6T]

Well wouldn't just supercharging an XR8 be a cheaper option than a GT?

And what do you mean by that young Glenn? lol, just because I prey every night for forced induction on the N/A? :lol:

True, if I wanted to supercharge a V8.....No I'd leave the GT stock.

[Mondie]

It would be a tough decision, which like Robbo says, could only be decided by a test drive. It seems as though the price difference between the F6 and GT could only be a couple of grand, so it really comes down to what you prefer engine wise. No doubt the GT is still the better looker.

l am really thinking now that a s/hand 2-3 yr old BMW 540 may be next for us. Buying new Fords and losing 50% in 3 years just doesnt seem like a sensible long term plan to me Spend a bit more on a 540, keep it for 3 years and sell it for maybe 60-70% of purchase price is very tempting. Then there is the German engineering anfd build quality to consider Hell, if the property market continues to be kind an M5 would be nice. Ah well, you gotta dream.

[GlennAUII]

Well wouldn't just supercharging an XR8 be a cheaper option than a GT?

And what do you mean by that young Glenn? lol, just because I prey every night for forced induction on the N/A? :lol:

True, if I wanted to supercharge a V8.....No I'd leave the GT stock.

sorry man! wasn't directing it at you! Was to the others who said save the money and mod the XR6T to make it better than typhoon.

I just thought if they could mod an XR6T to make it quicker than the typhoon, couldn't they mod an XR8 to be quicker than a GT for the same price?

just a thought.

[BrentS]

Two things I find interesting here in looking at the issue of the Typhoon:

1./ In my humble opinion, it looks like good value for money. Say for between $12-14K over the price of a T you get different body kit, 30kw extra; a tonne of torque spread all through the rev range; better brakes; better gearbox (I think); higher quality-look interior; beefed-up internals, such as larger intercooler and engine mods. I think it looks pretty good (on paper at least).

2./ In terms of the extra kw, I note with interest that Ford (as fiscally tight as they are) still saw fit to put in heavy duty valve springs and strengthened conrods to handle the extra 30kw. I'm no engineer, but if Ford wanted to screw out 300kw from this engine (as some have been calling for), we'd have to pay for further strengthening of things like big end bearings, balanced crank etc.

I think we need to recognise that this is not just a case of taking the same car and turning up the boost. There's more than a few people on this forum who think that the be-all and end-all is to crank up the boost to get 300+ kw. I'm not sure what all these Nizpro etc kits offer, but I hope they incorporate some major internal engine mods, as I have an errie feeling that all these 300+kw T's that are starting to float around may be the automotive equivalent of hand granades just waiting for a conrod to blow through the bonnet.

Personally, I think that the Typhoon will be to the XR6 T what the GT is to the XR8.............a fair bit more car for your money.

Brent.

[OwnaXR6T]

I would take the typhoon over the GT, GT is too slow.

[plonky]

GT for me please

Sure, the Turbo can be made to go quicker with bolt ons, but with time, thought and effort, the 5.4 is a considerably larger air pump (because after all that is all an engine is) to make more power with.

This could be by way of camshaft, ECM, supercharger, turbocharger etc.....

Hmmm, AMG supercharged V8 ring any bells?

[BrentS]

As a prospective purchasor later this year, the mind says the F6, but the heart says the GT. Have never owned a V8, but as my old man and my grandfather have both owned FOrd V8s, I almost feel compelled to carry on the tradition.

If they slot a strengthened (and lightened) 5 or 6 speed sequential auto into the Series II GT, this would probably sway me to that.

Hmmmmmm.......Series II GT. What are the chances for variable valve timing on the Boss engines? That would theoretically fix the slightly soft bottom end, and give more top end as well. Another 15kw or thereabouts to boot as well.

[HSE2]

Right now as they sit my pick would be the F6. Lots of reasons won't bore with details.

Mondie, be careful with the Europeans. I have had and still drive them today. To get Ford levels of power your are looking at mega bucks. BMW are taking a hit in the quality stakes with the new 5 series not up to earlier model standards. At the right price sure and second hand more so but I can tell you all my cars have been sold with in three years and I have never done better than 60% (new) The more they cost the more you lose, which I don't have to tell you. It not easy and it is frustrating seeing your pride a joy drop like the proverbial but some of the parts in these Europeans are frightfully dear. How’s $600 for a rear view mirror? New v second hand when it comes to warranty is something to keep in the back of the mind. One thing though- you might actually get a half decent driveline :banghead:

I like the way FPV are handling the 03 models. I am sure there are great deals to be had but so far I haven’t seen them publicly listed in the papers, “call” being the term used.

There are obvious reasons why Europeans do better in resale and they have nothing to do with the product. Comes down to stock control and brand value. Both HSV and FPV could do to take a close look. However I think there are signs of improvement in both camps. Order only on the HSV side and the way FPV are handling 03 stock are two examples

[Mondie]

One thing though- you might actually get a half decent driveline

I like the way FPV are handling the 03 models.  I am sure there are great deals to be had but so far I haven’t seen them publicly listed in the papers, “call” being the term used.

There are obvious reasons why Europeans do better in resale and they have nothing to do with the product.  Comes down to stock control and brand value.  Both HSV and FPV could do to take a close look.  However I think there are signs of improvement in both camps.  Order only on the HSV side and the way FPV are handling 03 stock are two examples

Bloody hell lan, you're a mind reader

The cheap driveline Ford continue to use in their performance cars is one of the main reasons l am thinking European. l will take a drop in power, but pick up in other areas, power isnt the deciding factor for me. l just hope the BA2 gets the driveline the rest of the car deserves, or l am going to find it hard to go for another FPV :(

lncreased running costs are a big consideration, and yes the car would be used, but these offset the potentially higher resale and higher quality of the base car. HSV will be worth a look too when the next Commie is released with the Gen 4. Just thinking out loud at the moment.........

It is good to see Ford are selling off 03 stock in a considered way and are paying attention to resale. Another T series debacle on resale and shafting owners would really finish of the interest l have in Ford.

[ZMAN]

For me it would definitely have to be a GT....(well it will beone day-need to do more work on the Minister for Finance).