blacktur8oute Member 139 Member For: 11y 4m 12d Gender: Male Posted 26/02/17 09:49 AM Share Posted 26/02/17 09:49 AM Hi all took the car out for a squirt today and noticed under load from 3rd to 4th gear the revs hardly drop and instantly it's hitting the limiter, my first thought was I lost traction but after trying again didn't feel like I lost traction and did the same thing any thoughts guys why it's doing this and what it could be Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/92970-revs-wont-drop-between-gear-changes/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 29,402 Member For: 17y 3d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 26/02/17 09:52 AM Share Posted 26/02/17 09:52 AM manual or auto (BTR or ZF)? I'm assuming ZF auto... so that means the clutches in the gearbox are slipping as they try to apply the pressure required to change gear it's not engaging the next gear quick enough to avoid the limiter, I think... Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/92970-revs-wont-drop-between-gear-changes/#findComment-1632906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacktur8oute Member 139 Member For: 11y 4m 12d Gender: Male Posted 26/02/17 09:54 AM Author Share Posted 26/02/17 09:54 AM Yeah it's a ZF Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/92970-revs-wont-drop-between-gear-changes/#findComment-1632907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 29,402 Member For: 17y 3d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 26/02/17 09:56 AM Share Posted 26/02/17 09:56 AM yeah, 3rd to 4th is the most common clutch set to have issues (as people usually aren't getting to the top of 4th gear to change under load to 5th ) in a ZF vehicle with a reasonable amount of power. A fluid change on the gearbox might alleviate the symptoms, but it's likely the gearbox will need to be removed and rebuilt (expensive). Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/92970-revs-wont-drop-between-gear-changes/#findComment-1632908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacktur8oute Member 139 Member For: 11y 4m 12d Gender: Male Posted 26/02/17 10:03 AM Author Share Posted 26/02/17 10:03 AM Makes sense now, fluid at filter change was done about 3,000kms ago, I've also noticed recently that when I change from 2nd to 3rd under normal driving it's not a smooth change but under load you don't notice it Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/92970-revs-wont-drop-between-gear-changes/#findComment-1632909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidxr6t skids Donating Members 2,754 Member For: 12y 3m 15d Gender: Not Telling Posted 26/02/17 10:45 PM Share Posted 26/02/17 10:45 PM maybe the fluid level should be checked? 1 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/92970-revs-wont-drop-between-gear-changes/#findComment-1632934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROB83R Member 1,632 Member For: 8y 10m 24d Gender: Not Telling Location: Radioactive wasteland Posted 02/03/17 02:35 PM Share Posted 02/03/17 02:35 PM Whs^^^ Maybe worth a trip to spiro to get it looked at before you cook it. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/92970-revs-wont-drop-between-gear-changes/#findComment-1633235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETURBO ...JD TUNING ADELAIDE... Gold Donating Members 23,708 Member For: 16y 10m 13d Gender: Male Location: Adelaide Posted 02/03/17 09:09 PM Share Posted 02/03/17 09:09 PM countless times I've had a ZF come in after it's been "serviced" and has issues since that can be fixed by checking levels correctly and if it's been ZF "Tuned" and now won't engage 4th then your tuner needs to have another go at it Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/92970-revs-wont-drop-between-gear-changes/#findComment-1633240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe@cms Member 129 Member For: 15y 9m 29d Gender: Male Posted 02/03/17 09:25 PM Share Posted 02/03/17 09:25 PM normally if its starting to slip, flare, slip bump or not engine breaking in manual mode & its being running for a while like that, then its time to pull it down. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/92970-revs-wont-drop-between-gear-changes/#findComment-1633241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacktur8oute Member 139 Member For: 11y 4m 12d Gender: Male Posted 03/03/17 05:35 AM Author Share Posted 03/03/17 05:35 AM On 02/03/2017 at 9:09 PM, JETURBO said: countless times I've had a ZF come in after it's been "serviced" and has issues since that can be fixed by checking levels correctly and if it's been ZF "Tuned" and now won't engage 4th then your tuner needs to have another go at it Expand Yes the ZF Is tuned,Your correct, it was low on oil about 800ml, I followed the level check procedure took it out had one go as it started to rain and it engaged 4th the way it should Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/92970-revs-wont-drop-between-gear-changes/#findComment-1633258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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