Antisocial Weird Member Member 1,347 Member For: 21y 10m 23d Location: ACT Posted 04/03/04 11:36 PM Share Posted 04/03/04 11:36 PM I had a little scare with this last night.Came zooming into bunnings car park late last night (almost closed and empty, so ok to 'zoom'). Hard acceleration then I backed off the throttle and simultaneously turned into the parking spot and pulled up just short of a tree. The engine revs dropped down low (less than 300rpm), the computer revved the engine to stop it from stalling, the revs shot up and the car leapt forward almost hitting the tree. I think the problem lies with trailing throttle (when pulling up to stop) and an increased mechanical load such as a/c or p/s at idle causes the revs to drop faster than the PCM can compensate. I don't think it is Hot temperature related as my problem occurred at an ambient temp of about 15 deg C. The reason others have this happen at high temp is possibly because the a/c is on, loading down the engine at idle, via the compressor and alternator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bossman Guests Posted 07/03/04 04:54 AM Share Posted 07/03/04 04:54 AM I would think it has very little to do with temperature, I was driving mine yesterday in the heavy rain and when I slowed down to stop at the lights it stalled. Th gauge was well below half way. NOT GOOD ENOUGH FORD. The dealer tried to blame the APS II kit, after reading this thread, I know better. Thanks guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-WING Member 811 Member For: 21y 23d Location: BRISBANE Posted 07/03/04 10:41 AM Share Posted 07/03/04 10:41 AM Hi guys 615km on clock had a bit of fun in the beast b4 sitting at idle for 5min in a car park A/C on ,As I rolled out of car park at idle speed and slightly turned to the left experienced severe loss of power but didnt stall . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axw01 Donating Members 127 Member For: 21y 9m 8d Location: Brisbane QLD Posted 08/03/04 11:42 AM Share Posted 08/03/04 11:42 AM Hi guys 615km on clock had a bit of fun in the beast b4 sitting at idle for 5min in a car park A/C on ,As I rolled out of car park at idle speed and slightly turned to the left experienced severe loss of power but didnt stall . It has begun!!!! Mine didn't have the problem for the first 35000klms, then it appeared and remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAP No boost, no bottle, just my foot on the throttle! Lifetime Members 7,935 Member For: 20y 10m 12d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 08/03/04 11:49 AM Share Posted 08/03/04 11:49 AM The more I read this thread the more it seems a load problem that is caused by power steering & Aircon that is loading the engine at low rpm and the fly by wire is unable to catch the engine before it stalls. I bet anyone could make their car stall under the right conditions. I really hope that Ford sort this problem out quickly as it is dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scootre Guests Posted 09/03/04 07:00 AM Share Posted 09/03/04 07:00 AM Chalk up another one for me.A hot day today in Syd (currently 39 deg at 5:50pm)... about an hour ago on the way home I was in a 50kph zone, air con at medium fan, came to a stop sign, went to drive off, no engine. Ho hum.I've made another call the 13Ford to voice my concern that this thing might stall in a bad place and cause an incident. I've also indicated that I now know the extent of this problem having read all the complaints of other owners here on the site.Apparently they are going to call me tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dankman Member 270 Member For: 21y 5m 5d Location: zadank village Canberra Posted 09/03/04 11:56 PM Share Posted 09/03/04 11:56 PM Last week I had the WDS update installed on my XR6 n/a. Certainly makes a difference and so far no stalling or idle-hunting. It's also changed the shift points for the auto. Previously, the 3rd to 4th change occured at 70km/h. It now happens at 63-65. Overall all gear changes are a lot smoother, as is the idle. The trade-off however is that I've noticed the car has a little less mongrel. Maybe coz it's smoother, but it feels like it's lost 2-3% power/torque. Almost seems like they've configured things to reduce the timing of the car. Anyway, we'll see how it pans out long term. Interested to hear from anyone else that's had the update.Sorry to inform you guy's but I'm curious to know what calibrations your dealers are using.At this present point in time the updated calibrations haven't even left FOMOCO. I rang the Biti Motors yesterday and they said that they still havent recieved their updates for the WDS yet either.They also said that because my break shudder is comming back and that Ford still havent comissioned the disk skimmer there that they would replace my disks when I come in as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scootre Guests Posted 11/03/04 09:33 AM Share Posted 11/03/04 09:33 AM I received a call from FoMoCo cust support today to say the dealers would be receiving the flash upgrades during the course of next week.My dealer's service manager has confirmed this and said that he'll be doing mine real soon.I wonder if after the updates are flashed to peoples cars - if the stalling really is heat related as has been suggested by many - that the soon to be cooler daily termperatures give us all a perception that the problem is fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrasH Bloody Orange Team (BOT) Donating Members 872 Member For: 21y 6m 4d Gender: Male Location: Canberra, Australia Posted 12/03/04 07:49 PM Share Posted 12/03/04 07:49 PM Had a close call yesterday. Accelerated to unnder the speed limit, then did the right turn I do practically every day. The car stalled on me on the turn and almost made me hit a parked car and left me dead in the middle of the road. If I did hit the car, I garentee that I'd make my insurance company take this much further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PSXR6 Guests Posted 12/03/04 09:17 PM Share Posted 12/03/04 09:17 PM I have also had this drama, car 7 month old 7000km and had been near on perfect, then twce in one week it staled and under the same conditions, air on, hard turn to right at low km, pulling into driveway accross traffic, was lucky I live in small town and can get away with it more so than the city people. Car goes in on Wed to be looked at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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