Which model ute to buy BF or FG

[ROB83R]

FG's got the tr6060 6 speed. A stronger t56. 

The dedicated ecolpi gas motors were very high comp over 10:1 with similar power to the turbo. Not too sure on the taxi gas motors that run the mixer ring setup. 

The point Dan was making about the supercharged xr6 was that he hit the wall on gas so went e85 and has gone crazy now. 

@Rab runs dual fuel. Check out his build. He makes over 300rwkw on gas injection. 

[Oracle1]

9 minutes ago, ROB83R said:

The point Dan was making about the supercharged xr6 was that he hit the wall on gas so went e85 and has gone crazy now.

 

 

Copy that I don't need to go that far and he makes a valid point about engines that close to the edge. I would be more than happy with 300kw at the flywheel. Just reading through @Rab thread now. Also looking at the eco lpi specs. Saw the TR6060 today and I am chasing info from Mal Wood.

Edited 22/11/16 12:58 PM by Oracle1

[ROB83R]

Minimal mods on these things will net you 300 at the wheels. 

300 at the fly is nearly standard. You'll make that with a free flowing intake and retune. 

 

Ecolpi gets me excited. They make bullsh*t power. Rumour has it they were de-tuned because they made more than the fg turbos and were breaking components in testing. 

Edited 22/11/16 01:33 PM by ROB83R

[Oracle1]

look at the specs for the torque on the gas motors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Barra_engine the gas motors are only making slightly under the petrol torque figure with less horsepower of course. This is why I am interested in LPG turbo, not for hp but for torque. Notice the increases for the eco lpi motor. The car I am looking at has an old fashioned taxi mixer style setup which I am assuming is the first gen. If this is the case then it is dead set easy to put a big mixer on and run the metering on positive pressure with fan.

[ROB83R]

I think that would be a better option for boost over the lpi. 

Crude but easier. 

You would probably want 2 converters with line mods to the tank etc to supply the amount of gas you'll need. 

[Rab]

I think you need to go the JTG LPI if you want to do any form of tuning/mods/torque/power increase.

The others basically only let you "mimic" the factory tune to run it on gas, which doesn't leave any room for meaningful mods.

 

I could be wrong or things could have changed since I went the gas route.

[Oracle1]

Well gentlemen look what the cat dragged in,

Apologies for poor quality pics more to follow in daylight

 

Edited 23/11/16 11:25 AM by Oracle1

[ROB83R]

Is this the gas one you mentioned last night? 

Specs? 

Looks good. I've always liked those rims. 

[Oracle1]

This is a different car 

 

2004 BA MKII XLS 115,000 klm Petrol 4 speed auto new pads on the front 4 tyres so so prolly 40% 12 months extended warranty which is meaningless only a tiny bit of guttter rash on the front left otherwise neat as a pin nice interior drives really nice handles like a bucket of sh*t but that is to be expected. looks like it has bigger springs all round. I like the way it goes it has some grunt. Overall its nice car I am impressed with the design, tragic Ford stoppen manufacturing. 12mnths rego  $7500

Edited 23/11/16 11:41 AM by Oracle1

[Oracle1]