US Elections

[Puffwagon]

Did someone say rock band?

 

Count me in! 

[stubbietubbie]

[MBAF]

Yeah yeah typo.....good chat boys

[MBAF]

But since we are on the topic lets look at the bigger picture of russia and usa.

 

China are building islands in international waters and have been expanded by 2000 acres threatening usa/australia and is a total of 3500acres. These islands are now suporting early warning radar systems, air control towers, a runway big enough to support ever chinnese air plane and a dockyard big enough and deep enough for a naval base including submarines. North korea is building and testing nuclear weapons..australia now have a force heading to the south china seas as we speak..

 

This is also why usa flew in 2 b1 bombers on rotation to tindal base as well as the b52 bombers already stationed there.

 

Trump has stated middle east must now pay for protection which means we will loose that allie also. If Russia gets a good deal with the middle east how do you think the usa/russian relations will go? Lets also look at russian mentality of the population. They hate America in general not to mention the rest of NATO and are allies of china... this is only touching on the surface. 

 

The picture is much bigger than you see..im for one on the fence with trump and happy for world peace etc etc, but ive been on the for front of this and its never how it seems, specially with putin..only time will tell how deep the rabbit hole goes

[hpfmnst]

Unbelievable. Simple astonishing!
China hasn't attacked anyone for a very long time.
They generally preferred isolation. Hence why thay have Chinese wall around china. They suffered greatly by Japanese in ww2.
Untold millions died by Japanese hand.
You know that.
But no! Chinese are coming! They are planning attack! You need to remember that not every nation thinks like Us politicians. Us is constantly in a state or warfare for the last fricking 200 years. If they don't have an enemy they will invent one. The amount of invasions us conducted in last 50 years， list is too long to fit on one page. Countries have reason to be very afraid of US if they dont play their tune. But hey， Chinese are agressive! They need to be taught a leason dont they?
We need to surround them with warships， bases， carriers，nuclear weapons. What do they have to worry about right?

Russisns were invaded 2 times from western borders in major invasions that threatened to wipe out most of population.
Napoleon assembed the best continental europe had at the time and 1812 attacked russia with close to 700 000 soldiers.
We will put aside fact that only less then 50 000 managed to escape back， Moscow was burning. It was ravaged. Hundreds of thousands russians died defending their motherland.
Fast forward to 1941 and another invasion by wermacht and allies. The best army in europe and arguably in the world. More than 5 000 000 soldiers was sent to wie out russians. The best hitler and coalition of willing (does that sound familiar) of many states had. They were stopped in stalingrad. More than 25 000 000 russian soldiers and civilians died from that second invasion from west. Yet here is russia again being surrounded from west by yet another european alliance.
My friend. Let me tell you something for the sake of this this planet. DO NOT TRY ANOTHER WAR AGAINST RUSSIA.
This will be last war humanity tried. This is the intersection. Hillary wanted to help jihadis fighting syrian government. Russia is there fighting jihadis as well. What do you think would happen if hillary was elected?
For now we avoided catastrophe..
Time will tell who is really Trump.

[MBAF]

Lol..

 

So building military bases 2900km outside their EEZ and threatening everyone including civilian airlines that fly in those international waters is not a strategic move? 

 

turning natural reefs into islands (which now gives them range to the NT) and threten people that are allowed to legally be there? 

 

You dont think that they are war mongering? You thinking strategically placing isnt a war move? You dont think that dropping trade with australia in the last few years to reduce our income into australia insnt strategically "choking" our economy?

[Ezy2Confuze]

This is so spot on it's not funny:

 

[ROB83R]

He nearly blew a poo poo valve! 

 

"Re-tweeting greenpeace doesn't lower your carbon footprint". Gold. 

[Ezy2Confuze]

Yeah he seems a little upset, I don't blame him, someone else made a very valid comment along the lines of now everyone can take a bag of cement and harden the f*ck up and stop this "victim" mentality, it was in relation to all this people making excuses all the time and how people need to start taking responsibility for their actions especially when it comes to bringing up their offspring.

[camo86T]

7 hours ago, hpfmnst said:

More than 25 000 000 russian soldiers and civilians died from that second invasion from west. 

My friend. Let me tell you something for the sake of this this planet. DO NOT TRY ANOTHER WAR AGAINST RUSSIA.

 

Because millions of Russians will die? 

 

 

 

Carry on, very interesting thread.