Guest cul08r Guests Posted 20/02/04 02:22 AM Share Posted 20/02/04 02:22 AM Of course alxr6t there are 2 sides to every story. I' wasn't saying he was an angel. I wasn't saying that the police were or were not chasing him. The only people who know what happened are Thomas Hickey and the officers that 'found' him.And if you want to know why he was running, try being in a minority group for a while. Look at what has happened in the US since 9/11. Murders of people with 'middle eastern' apperances has increased, as has their arrests, due to the fact that many ordinary people misjudge them.Andrew Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/9241-redfern-riot/page/3/#findComment-94762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypnodoc It's All In Your Mind Gold Donating Members 2,198 Member For: 21y 6m 29d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 20/02/04 04:08 AM Share Posted 20/02/04 04:08 AM cul08r said: Of course alxr6t there are 2 sides to every story. I' wasn't saying he was an angel. I wasn't saying that the police were or were not chasing him. The only people who know what happened are Thomas Hickey and the officers that 'found' him.And if you want to know why he was running, try being in a minority group for a while. Look at what has happened in the US since 9/11. Murders of people with 'middle eastern' apperances has increased, as has their arrests, due to the fact that many ordinary people misjudge them.AndrewPolice arrest girlfriend.Police withdraw charge and change to caution after being instructed to do so by unknown higher authorityPolice wait until after Mr Hickies funeral and attempt to arrest some 40 suspected riotersMr Carr wastes another 5 million dollars on two more enquiries, the first to ascertain why girlfriend was arrested, the second to see why the first two enquiries had no answers.2 days after police arrest some of the 40 suspects, Redfern erupts into the biggest race riots in Australia's history. Police stand back dismayed at why the public are not on their side and why 3 times more officers get hurt than what did in the first riot.Perhaps its all Karma for that "Deaths in custody" issue?What ever it is I'm glad I'm not a Sydney copper.The coppers will get hurt, the rioters will get hurt, and many so-called senior academics will get big budget increases and/or research grants to try and figure what happened. But none of this will ever be anybodies fault :flameman: :flameman: Hasn't our politically correct stance on racism worked wonderfully (NOT). Racism, what racism? We don't have that in Australia (Crap) and that goes for all the races and creeds who live here.We have become a pack of politically corrected hypocritical wet blankets Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/9241-redfern-riot/page/3/#findComment-94786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Member 504 Member For: 21y 6m 26d Location: sun, beach and plenty of T T's Posted 20/02/04 04:17 AM Share Posted 20/02/04 04:17 AM Falchoon said: Senator Ridgeway called on police not to arrest Sunday night's rioters, saying that he was "tired of too many young [Aboriginal] people ending up in prison". Who is this ridgeway fool. Im sure if someone painted his lovely fence in grafitti he would be callng them to drawn and quartered.He should come with me up to the cape sometime and see how it really is.What an absolute disgrace statement. People who have no concept of the game should not be in control of vital players Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/9241-redfern-riot/page/3/#findComment-94787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falchoon I see red Member 5,758 Member For: 22y 5m 12d Location: nowhere in particular Posted 20/02/04 05:08 AM Author Share Posted 20/02/04 05:08 AM curious said: Who is this ridgeway fool. http://www.aph.gov.au/Senate/senators/home...pages/s-8g6.htm Quote Im sure if someone painted his lovely fence in grafitti he would be callng them to drawn and quartered.Except if they were Aboriginal... Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/9241-redfern-riot/page/3/#findComment-94813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stang Donating Members 1,353 Member For: 21y 4m 8d Location: Melbourne Posted 20/02/04 06:22 AM Share Posted 20/02/04 06:22 AM Thanks rapt,Here we go again the big issues is we let the politicians fix everything never happens.I am a greek Australian born here.(or Australian Greek whatever) I remember going to high school and in the early years we were just wogs then everybody just blended in over the years in my late high school years there was an influx of asians few months of fights,arguieng etc then after a while people started getting along with each other.Played sport etc.I know one asian who speaks better greek than me. I must admit I dont have many aborigine friends mainly because I dont know any. But my question is, these people have been here longer than any of us they need to blend into the community.Do they go to all aborigine schools or are they mixed in with other schools? Maybe they should be dispersed a bit more and assisted so that they are not in an all aboriginie community as when there are to many of one nationality in one place it makes it look like they have overtaken the suburb Example Springvale in Melbourne most people will tell you its full of asian as there are other areas that have smaller groups of asians that people dont say anything about. I don`t have any problem with any race. One thing I would like to say is you get a lot of the old greeks who still dont like the Turks(O.K there was the war of independence people got killed and raped etc on both sides)but we must move on and learn to start fresh.Is this is what the aboriginies think? Dont know but if they are ever to blend into the community they need to forgive or forget the early colonization by the white people and look at what we have today and try to be peacefull and loving not riot and abusive which will only breed hate.This goes for the rest of the world as well but we can only hope one day past wars will be forgiven or forgotten and the new generation will make a better world.Sorry but this is my point of view and I know it sounds a bit lovey duvey but people need to develope this love and respect for each other when they are young.P.s the drugs analcohol that some of them get involved him obviously doesnt help.RegardsStang Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/9241-redfern-riot/page/3/#findComment-94855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Here since the start... Lifetime Members 10,282 Member For: 22y 1m 3d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 20/02/04 07:05 AM Share Posted 20/02/04 07:05 AM Quote alxr6t - I don't know much about this subject but I saw on the news that the police were just on patrol and drove past the boy with no intention of pursuing him or even stopping him. So if the boy reacted as soon as he saw the police and ran, I wonder why, what would his reason be? Maybe he had just commited a crime of some sort? Quote cul08r - Of course alxr6t there are 2 sides to every story. I' wasn't saying he was an angel. I wasn't saying that the police were or were not chasing him. The only people who know what happened are Thomas Hickey and the officers that 'found' him.And if you want to know why he was running, try being in a minority group for a while. Look at what has happened in the US since 9/11. Murders of people with 'middle eastern' apperances has increased, as has their arrests, due to the fact that many ordinary people misjudge them.What did I say in my above post to offend you so much cul08r? I didn't realise I had directed any of my comments towards you! If I was going to direct any comments towards you, or anyone else for that matter I would use their name or quote something they had said. Calm down mate! Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/9241-redfern-riot/page/3/#findComment-94875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixfan Flaccid Member Donating Members 2,503 Member For: 22y 7d Gender: Male Location: NOONAMAH, go figure..... Posted 20/02/04 07:27 AM Share Posted 20/02/04 07:27 AM stang said: Thanks rapt,Here we go again the big issues is we let the politicians fix everything never happens.I am a greek Australian born here.(or Australian Greek whatever) I remember going to high school and in the early years we were just wogs then everybody just blended in over the years in my late high school years there was an influx of asians few months of fights,arguieng etc then after a while people started getting along with each other.Played sport etc.I know one asian who speaks better greek than me. I must admit I dont have many aborigine friends mainly because I dont know any. But my question is, these people have been here longer than any of us they need to blend into the community.Do they go to all aborigine schools or are they mixed in with other schools? Maybe they should be dispersed a bit more and assisted so that they are not in an all aboriginie community as when there are to many of one nationality in one place it makes it look like they have overtaken the suburb Example Springvale in Melbourne most people will tell you its full of asian as there are other areas that have smaller groups of asians that people dont say anything about. I don`t have any problem with any race. One thing I would like to say is you get a lot of the old greeks who still dont like the Turks(O.K there was the war of independence people got killed and raped etc on both sides)but we must move on and learn to start fresh.Is this is what the aboriginies think? Dont know but if they are ever to blend into the community they need to forgive or forget the early colonization by the white people and look at what we have today and try to be peacefull and loving not riot and abusive which will only breed hate.This goes for the rest of the world as well but we can only hope one day past wars will be forgiven or forgotten and the new generation will make a better world.Sorry but this is my point of view and I know it sounds a bit lovey duvey but people need to develope this love and respect for each other when they are young.P.s the drugs analcohol that some of them get involved him obviously doesnt help.RegardsStang Bare all in the interest of clarity...righto, it's not us who led the "invasion" it was the brittish government, any redress should be sort with them.I'm part aboriginal myself and if it wasn't for the brittish, the french would have come in and we'd be on the renult webpage now eating frogs and f@rting garlic. If I was fullblood and there was no "Invasion", my front teeth would have been knocked out at puberty, I'd have been circumcised with a sharp rock and suffered hard short life (assuming I'd survived apendicitis). NO THANKS. Treat Aboriginal as you would anybody else! They're no better or worse and I Detest the do gooder attitude that assumes aboriginals are somehow our lessers who need our help and guidence! Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/9241-redfern-riot/page/3/#findComment-94889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stang Donating Members 1,353 Member For: 21y 4m 8d Location: Melbourne Posted 20/02/04 07:41 AM Share Posted 20/02/04 07:41 AM sixfan said: stang said: Thanks rapt,Here we go again the big issues is we let the politicians fix everything never happens.I am a greek Australian born here.(or Australian Greek whatever) I remember going to high school and in the early years we were just wogs then everybody just blended in over the years in my late high school years there was an influx of asians few months of fights,arguieng etc then after a while people started getting along with each other.Played sport etc.I know one asian who speaks better greek than me. I must admit I dont have many aborigine friends mainly because I dont know any. But my question is, these people have been here longer than any of us they need to blend into the community.Do they go to all aborigine schools or are they mixed in with other schools? Maybe they should be dispersed a bit more and assisted so that they are not in an all aboriginie community as when there are to many of one nationality in one place it makes it look like they have overtaken the suburb Example Springvale in Melbourne most people will tell you its full of asian as there are other areas that have smaller groups of asians that people dont say anything about. I don`t have any problem with any race. One thing I would like to say is you get a lot of the old greeks who still dont like the Turks(O.K there was the war of independence people got killed and raped etc on both sides)but we must move on and learn to start fresh.Is this is what the aboriginies think? Dont know but if they are ever to blend into the community they need to forgive or forget the early colonization by the white people and look at what we have today and try to be peacefull and loving not riot and abusive which will only breed hate.This goes for the rest of the world as well but we can only hope one day past wars will be forgiven or forgotten and the new generation will make a better world.Sorry but this is my point of view and I know it sounds a bit lovey duvey but people need to develope this love and respect for each other when they are young.P.s the drugs analcohol that some of them get involved him obviously doesnt help.RegardsStangBare all in the interest of clarity...righto, it's not us who led the "invasion" it was the brittish government, any redress should be sort with them.I'm part aboriginal myself and if it wasn't for the brittish, the french would have come in and we'd be on the renult webpage now eating frogs and f@rting garlic. If I was fullblood and there was no "Invasion", my front teeth would have been knocked out at puberty, I'd have been circumcised with a sharp rock and suffered hard short life (assuming I'd survived apendicitis). NO THANKS. Treat Aboriginal as you would anybody else! They're no better or worse and I Detest the do gooder attitude that assumes aboriginals are somehow our lessers who need our help and guidence! Dear sixfanthat's exactly my point wars have been fought and those that conquer take over then run the island they took over. when I say us I meant the white people(in this case the english) Your right I wasnt saying treat them any different but my point being that we need to get along with each other regardless of race. Just for the record I never said aboriginies to be of a lesser race but when a race has seen more than its fair share of critisim it doesnt hurt to help out and try to understand them as far as being a do gooder if you cant help your fellow man regarless of race what does that make that person is he better for just lookin and doin nothing. regards Stang Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/9241-redfern-riot/page/3/#findComment-94900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo6man Lifetime Members 4,084 Member For: 22y 7m 18d Gender: Male Location: South Coast NSW Posted 20/02/04 08:11 AM Share Posted 20/02/04 08:11 AM Lucky the Brits "invaded" first. How many indiginous people would have surviverd an Asian "invasion"???Most of the kooris I know are good people living their lives much like the rest of us. The stirrers are the overeducated mixed breeds who like the panderings of the socialists and don't know how to exist without handouts. I don't know the answer. I don't really think there is one. At least not until the koori race is so mixed with the european/asian invaders that it just dissolves into obscutity. Another century or two?? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/9241-redfern-riot/page/3/#findComment-94914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagabond Bored Member Administrator 35,722 Member For: 22y 6m 15d Gender: Male Location: Dé·jà vu Posted 20/02/04 08:33 AM Share Posted 20/02/04 08:33 AM VERY touchy subject guy's please becareful and think twice before hitting the reply button. ASKING nicely nothing more, nothing less. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/9241-redfern-riot/page/3/#findComment-94921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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