masda74 To Loud Gold Donating Members 4,112 Member For: 13y 1m 25d Gender: Male Location: WA, Perth Posted 26/12/16 08:39 AM Share Posted 26/12/16 08:39 AM (edited) The cpu isn't affeced as much as the GPUs. My cpu was an I7 920, one of the first ones and I had it for about 6 or 7 years before upgrading it to an I5. I have had the I5 for about 2 years now and I dont see a need to upgrade it just yet. It should last another 5 years I hope, unless it fries itself. I am aware that the GTX690 is a dual gpu card. It still is a dual system setup, which means that it will never fully double the performance. No matter whether it is nvidia or amd, they will never be bang for buck, or give you double the performnce as I was under the impression that it would be. The GTX980 is powerfull enough for me to run it at 1440p and not 4k. It is capable of doing 4k, but my screen does not support 4k reaolution. The 144hz at 1440p for "The Division" is sufficient enough for me. :D I agree with you two that upgrades should not be on the cards any time soon. A belated merry christmas to all. Edited 26/12/16 08:44 AM by masda74 Spelling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodycrashboy Feeling the Love :-) Bronze Donating Members 4,421 Member For: 11y 9m 24d Gender: Male Location: Not in Cairns anymore Posted 28/12/16 07:30 PM Share Posted 28/12/16 07:30 PM On 26/12/2016 at 6:39 PM, masda74 said: I have had the I5 for about 2 years now and I don't see a need to upgrade it just yet. It should last another 5 years I hope, unless I fry it by overclocking it to the max. FIFY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discostig Manual mode ________________________ All day, erryday Donating Members 13,798 Member For: 17y 2m Gender: Male Location: Probably above atmospheric pressure Posted 29/12/16 05:20 AM Share Posted 29/12/16 05:20 AM On 26/12/2016 at 3:19 PM, Puffwagon said: I'm sure sli/crossfire support will improve as time goes by, at least in the AAA titles. A quick google tells me dual gaming video cards have been around for 18 years (Voodoo 2), I say if support was going to become commonplace it would have by now! Pretty sure I've said it before but dual cards don't make much sense to most people these days. Too much power usage, lost space and heat generation. The only reason I'd go dual cards is if I had bulk spare coin and wanted to have bragging rights over the highest FPS in benchmarks. Real world use, buy a single GTX1080 for $850 and be done with it! Paying for two cards gives a poor ROI. Having said that, seeing a top tier dual card set up with fruit like water cooling and massive overclocks iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis cool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Trust me bro...tbh ;) 8===} Gold Donating Members 16,069 Member For: 9y 11m 26d Gender: Male Location: South Australia Posted 29/12/16 06:22 AM Share Posted 29/12/16 06:22 AM Haha you'd think after that long that there would be fully integrated, reliable dual card gaming options but it ain't so. I have at least one game that I remember (The golf club) refused to run when in crossfire and everything else had stuttering or crashing issues. There are other examples that required the user to spend hours setting up individual cf or sli profiles in order to get games to run smoothly and reliably. When the founders edition gtx 1080 came out they were $1200 and the aftermarket gtx 980ti's were $650 new. If there was decent sli and crossfire support I would have bought another 980ti in a heartbeat. As you mentioned dual card setups are pretty much only good for benchmarking and I agree 100%. My firestrike benchmark went from 18072 to 17002 when I went to a single 980ti from 2 aftermarket r9 290x's but now have none of the issues I had with cf. That sh*t can make you pull your hair out lol. Imo a gtx 1080 is still not the best bang for buck at the moment. I'd still be happy to buy a second hand 980ti now if I had to make the choice, although I bought mine new a year ago. My card exceeds a 1080 when oc'd and is still within 5 to 10% when stock. No doubt the 1080 is a better card but not worth swapping a 980ti for such a minimal upgrade. It would be worth upgrading to a 1080 from earlier generations though. Any way one looks at it, building a top tier gaming computer is expensive as crap by the time peripherals are accounted for. It's still cheaper to play Assetto Corsa than to flog the hell out of my xr6 through the hills though so that's a thing! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodycrashboy Feeling the Love :-) Bronze Donating Members 4,421 Member For: 11y 9m 24d Gender: Male Location: Not in Cairns anymore Posted 29/12/16 06:29 AM Share Posted 29/12/16 06:29 AM 5 minutes ago, Puffwagon said: It's still cheaper to play Assetto Corsa than to flog the hell out of my xr6 through the hills though so that's a thing! and there is so much more content than ANY other driving sim http://assettocorsa.club/en/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discostig Manual mode ________________________ All day, erryday Donating Members 13,798 Member For: 17y 2m Gender: Male Location: Probably above atmospheric pressure Posted 29/12/16 11:45 AM Share Posted 29/12/16 11:45 AM (edited) I was surprised to read the 980Ti is only 5 to 10% less than a 1080 so I had a quick google and it didn't seem that close to me? Overclocking is mostly a moot point because you can overclock the new one as well. If you already had one and SLI was worth it then it would be great though I agree. New games (DX12) the 1080 walks all over the older generation, that's something else to look out for though I don't know what the advantage is visually to the user: DX11 DX12 Edited 29/12/16 11:49 AM by -Stever- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Trust me bro...tbh ;) 8===} Gold Donating Members 16,069 Member For: 9y 11m 26d Gender: Male Location: South Australia Posted 29/12/16 12:24 PM Share Posted 29/12/16 12:24 PM (edited) Don't believe the hype man. It doesn't look that close online but we're dealing with advertising here. My card is aftermarket and apparently I got a good one as it sits at 1530Mhz when gaming and drops to 1518 otherwise. I've successfully had it at 1547 when benching but that's good for fa. I was quite surprised then amused when the new gaming and synthetic benchmarks came out earlier in the year and my 980ti was already beating them. I was expecting miracles but I guess that is a testament to my noobness lol. I'm sure some blower versions don't fare nearly as well in testing but you should know that advertisers use the worst of the old and the best of the new for promoting new products. Yes you can overclock a new one, providing the chip in question will oc. Clock cycles aren't equal on different chipsets as the instructions per second differ greatly as proven (to me at least) by my own testing with various cards as well as being public knowledge. A Mhz number is not the be all and end all. We also rely on having quality drivers and bios's for our cards. Fortunately my card doesn't catch on fire like some 1080's. I rarely see more than 75 degrees at 50% fan in a 35 degree room with an oc on air. Aftermarket coolers ftw. Fyi the 980ti is dx12 compatible. Edited 29/12/16 12:26 PM by Puffwagon Word and paragraph. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodycrashboy Feeling the Love :-) Bronze Donating Members 4,421 Member For: 11y 9m 24d Gender: Male Location: Not in Cairns anymore Posted 29/12/16 07:29 PM Share Posted 29/12/16 07:29 PM (edited) also, who has $700 to $1000 to put down on a 3440 x 1440 monitor? I'd be interested to see what each card does on 1920 x 1080 had a quick search for something in relation to my graphics card and its relevance up against the GTX 1080, found this- http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=1701&gid2=1394&compare=geforce-gtx-1080-vs-geforce-gtx-690-asus-4gb-edition the bottom line for me is this quote: "Both GPUs exhibit very powerful performance, so it probably isn't worth upgrading from one to the other, as both are capable of running even the most demanding games at the highest settings." in this article @Puffwagon and @-Stever-, the GTX 1080 the Titan x and the 980ti are all pretty close to each other http://www.pcgamer.com/heres-how-your-graphics-card-performs-in-doom/ 11 hours ago, -Stever- said: I don't know what the advantage is visually to the user With these high end cards I don't think you would be able to tell the difference when gaming Edited 29/12/16 07:30 PM by bloodycrashboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab WOT? Moderating Team 10,981 Member For: 11y 10m 30d Gender: Male Location: Frankston, 3199 Posted 29/12/16 11:12 PM Share Posted 29/12/16 11:12 PM 2 x 1080's = Doom @4k ultra >60FPS Just saying....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discostig Manual mode ________________________ All day, erryday Donating Members 13,798 Member For: 17y 2m Gender: Male Location: Probably above atmospheric pressure Posted 29/12/16 11:16 PM Share Posted 29/12/16 11:16 PM Yeah that's often the case with new versions of DirectX, some extra effects that are subtle and kind of nice but not usually a huge impact and worth the performance hit. I know the older cards can do 12, see the image I posted comparing the performance! They also said for VR they don't strongly recommend the 1080 over the 980Ti, it's a little nicer with current games in some cases but not much. Devs would need to start coding for the unique VR specific features in the new series for it to shine, but that hasn't happened yet. Full article here http://www.roadtovr.com/nvidia-gtx-1080-benchmark-review-performance-head-to-head-against-the-980ti/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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