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[bloodycrashboy]

After half an hour of gameplay

[Puffwagon]

Was that playing minesweeper?

[bloodycrashboy]

HaHa @Puffwagon

 

Assetto Corsa racing sim my friend 

[masda74]

On 10/11/2016 at 3:25 PM, bloodycrashboy said:

Got it back into the study, still doing some tinkering.
Need more Red in the coolant.
Think there must be an air bubble in the VGA block cos one gpu is running 15° hotter under load.

When I read this, it bought back memories of my koolance case.

I was going to say that you need to shake it all about, but you worked that out.

Also the difference in gpu temp diff is due to having the cooling system in series.

The cpu seems to first in the loop which will directly affect the temp of the first gpu, which in turn will affect the second gpu. Get an ice block infront of that radiator is all I have to say.

 

On 28/11/2016 at 3:37 AM, bloodycrashboy said:

I have read people using car coolant for 12 months between changes without a problem, and their water blocks were still 100% as clean as the day they were fitted.

as far as bleeding the system goes, I did run just the pump and and tipped the case in all directions which has dislodged the air lock/bubble in the GPU water block.

In regard to maintenance for the system, well it all depends. I  would say that you need to keep an eye on it. They normally recommend every 6 months. As you mentioned some people suggest using coolant in your system for 12 months.

What ever you do, don't let any algae build up. As soon as you have a bit of algae in there, it is a bitch to clean out and get it out the system.

It is not worth the hassle mate. Just clean the system out every 6 months.

 

On 28/11/2016 at 7:41 PM, Puffwagon said:

Yep I did that. Everything is up to date. 

It ran on a couple of 8 gig sticks at 2100 for about 8 months with the cpu at 4.8 and was fine.

The best result I've come to is 4.6 on the cpu and 2100 on the ram. It'll run 4.8@2100 for days on end but as soon as I start gaming it says nope.

It also says nope to 2400 on the ram regardless of cpu frequency and despite voltages and timings. 

 

I've tried upping voltages for the memory controller and it doesn't help. 

I'm no guru but I've researched and fiddled for days on end and can't find a fix so I've settled for 4.6 and 2100.

 

Imo it's either the cpu or the mobo that is saying no. 

You right in regards to your last statement in the quote above. The cpu will be the limitting factor.

If your cpu is not happy with the voltage settings, you will be in for a world of hurt with freggin BSOD. The memory may be rated for 1600, 1800, 2000 or 2400, but if you not getting the right amount of voltage for the ram, forget about it.

if you rise the voltage to high, you have the opportunity to find out what a cooked cpu is too.

It is a fine art to overclock a system as it is all about trial and error (which you seem to have experienced already). If you have the patience to carry on doing the testing, it is possible to get better results, otherwise head over to overclockers australia's website and see what other users have set their systems too.

 

If your cpu isnt unlocked and you try to overclock it, then you will also have issues.

On 29/11/2016 at 6:20 AM, Puffwagon said:

I have a corsair rm1000 psu so that's all good for this setup.

 

I have read that the memory controller in the i7 4790k's is "weak" and it's hit and miss if you can actually get your ram to run over 1600Mhz which is what the cpu is rated to handle.

 

Heat wise it's ok and rarely sees more than 75 degrees while gaming.

I see you have a decent power supply, especially being gold certified, meaning that it is a bit more efficient at providing power. 1000w is more than enough for your system. Most people go 1000w when they go sli or crossfire. Overkill with a power supply like that, but it allows for future growth.

 

I saw you have now mentioned what cpu you have and I can tell you the issue is the CPU.

If you have no plans of going down the path of dual graphics card in the future, then get yourself an i5 assuming one would fit in the cpu socket of the motherboard. May help with the overclocking situation.

 

I remember back in the day and I mean back in the day, when we still had the lan centre at the back of osborne park. I was one of the first people to have the koolance case 100. What a bitch it was to work in such a small case. I had so many cuts and grazes on my hands.

What really put me off water cooling was when it leaked and blew my board. I bought another board and put it then. Proceeded to do a water leak test (after fixing the leak) only to find out the hard way that there was a leak else where. This blew the new board due to complaincency. 

 

For new comers out there planning to water cool your systems. There is a way to test the circuit with just the power supply and water cooling gear in the case. Do this first before installing the motherboard and the rest of the gear.

In the end it is worth it because the system will run cooler and quieter, but does require maintenance.

 

For those without a water cooled system, always make sure you have the right airflow in your case. Adding more fans to your case does not always fix your issues. Making sure that you have the same amount of fans blowing into the case, as to also having the same amount of fans blowing out does help alot.

Having most of the fans at either the bottom or front blowing into the case, against the same amount of fans at the top or back blowing out. This should create airflow to cool the system.

 

Sorry to everyone for the long reply, but that was me playing catch up.

[Puffwagon]

Haha @bloodycrashboy I have a neptom 240m and it it usually goes to 75 when playing assetto corsa.

 

@masda74 I'm pretty sure I've got the best I can from my setup. I'm not game to put more than 1.65 volts on the ram. There is little benefit to having the ram run 300Mhz faster and the cpu 200Mhz faster (assuming that a new chip will get to 4.8Ghz) so I'll just stick with what I have for now. 

 

The only bsods I've seen lately are due to the graphics driver but at the rate nvidia pumps them out it usually gets fixed fairly quickly. 

 

I had 2 r9 290x's in crossfire previous to swapping to the gtx980ti. The power supply was sufficient to run them at stock speeds but when I oc'd them I was getting crashes constantly. After thorough diagnosing I worked out that I needed a 1200w psu minimum for that setup. 

 

I may get another 980ti one day but I rarely feel like I need more gpu power at 1440p. Maybe I'll upgrade cards in a few years if I ever move to a 4k monitor. 

[bloodycrashboy]

1 hour ago, masda74 said:

Also the difference in gpu temp diff is due to having the cooling system in series.

The cpu seems to first in the loop which will directly affect the temp of the first gpu, which in turn will affect the second gpu. Get an ice block infront of that radiator is all I have to say.

 

I now have the temps on the GPU's down to within a couple of degrees of each other 

the coolant flows from pump to GPU # 1 - GPU # 2 to top radiator to CPU to front radiator to pump etc, etc.

The front radiator is the largest and seems to be doing a killer job 

these temps are over a 6 hour period today, with 4 gaming sessions of about half an hour a piece. 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, masda74 said:

Get an ice block infront of that radiator is all I have to say.

already done 

 

[masda74]

I see you onto it then. I learnt the hard way too in regards to dual card setup. I previously had dual R9 280X black edition and gave them up for a gigabyte gtx980 gaming edition.

I am pretty sure that I will not be going dualmcard ever again. I rather get the best single card that I can afford.

Try and get what your budget will allow.

[bloodycrashboy]

I will not be going dualmcard ever again. I rather get the best single card that I can afford.

The GTX 690 has 2 GPU's on a single card.

[Puffwagon]

I would be reluctant to go dual card again for gaming as these days as it is not needed.

 

Maybe I'd get another 980ti just because they are getting cheaper by the day but I don't like the stuttering. I'm sure sli/crossfire support will improve as time goes by, at least in the AAA titles.

 

Give it a few years and a single card will exceed 60 fps if not double that at 4k and will come in at the usual $1000 price.

 

With the more obvious move toward multithreading I think my cpu should hold up for nearly a decade before becoming obsolete for gaming based on Intel's current cycle. Hopefully AMD can shake that up in the coming weeks and years.

[bloodycrashboy]

16 minutes ago, Puffwagon said:

I think my cpu should hold up for nearly a decade before becoming obsolete for gaming based on Intel's current cycle. Hopefully AMD can shake that up in the coming weeks and years.

 

Computer CPU's seem to have come up against a brick wall.

My 3930K is now coming up to 5 years old, and it doesn't seem any slower than what is on offer today.

But I don't do anything 4K, for me it's all 1080