arronm Dropping a turd Gold Donating Members 9,520 Member For: 17y 2m 7d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 23/10/16 10:16 AM Share Posted 23/10/16 10:16 AM I use ID as that's what my tuner uses. You need to discuss what injectors your tuner prefers. BUT no use going to large. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBAF Bronze Donating Members 2,156 Member For: 8y 4m 19d Posted 23/10/16 01:22 PM Share Posted 23/10/16 01:22 PM 12 hours ago, BigMoscow said: Hello. Sorry I have been away for a while. An update on the build. The GTR is sold so Money is now freed up for the F6. The list has changed some what since the last time I was here. Will be chasing a little more power. At this stage I will build as much as I can around the engine while choosing the components for a bottom end rebuild. Leaning towards the Atomic 998 rebuild kit but now set on it. As for the rest of the list: Precision 6870 gen2 cea turbo high mount twin scroll manifold ext gate of coarse 2000cc injectors jonny tig 1400hp stepped intercooler with 3 inch in/out piping upgraded in tank pump and a twin pump setup with surge tank on the outside big battery in the boot atomic valves and retainers atomic oil pump gears rebuilt zf with billet input shaft 4 inch exhaust still looking at the stage 4 atomic cams once the paerts for the motor are picket, that will be rebuilt also. End goal is 1000rwhp on e85 and around 600on 98ron. Would love to dip into 9s on e85. After driving a few very quick Gtrs and one very very quick xr6 turbo in Adelaid, my eyes have been opened a little. The xr6 in adelaid had 670rwhp and I had no problems driving around in it all day. The hard part was not booting it every chance you see some open road. If any one has any suggestions regarding the list of external parts or which parts are good for a rebuild. would love to hear form you. 2000cc will be fine for wgat you want. Better to have a bit of wiggle room. You will be happy with either bosch or ID... Have so much love for the 6870. You wont be dissapointed at all. Will make power and be extrmely responsive on the 4ltr. What rear housing you going for? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMoscow Member 45 Member For: 8y 7m 3d Posted 23/10/16 02:30 PM Author Share Posted 23/10/16 02:30 PM 8 hours ago, JETURBO said: Opt for the Jonny Tig 1800hp kit over the stepped unit where in Adelaide are you going to get all this put together and tuned by ? Sorry for the confusion. I was visiting Adelaide. I'm in Perth. I'm opting to have the same guys to work on my F6 that worked on my GTR. I trust them. I'll need to get some one else to tune it though. From what I am told, the 1800hp unit will be overkill and will require a fair amount of structural cutting to fit. Jonny tig recommend the 1400hp unit, just said to opt for the 3inch inlet and outlet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMoscow Member 45 Member For: 8y 7m 3d Posted 23/10/16 02:32 PM Author Share Posted 23/10/16 02:32 PM 1 hour ago, MBAF said: 2000cc will be fine for wgat you want. Better to have a bit of wiggle room. You will be happy with either bosch or ID... Have so much love for the 6870. You wont be dissapointed at all. Will make power and be extrmely responsive on the 4ltr. What rear housing you going for? Cheers. Seen some amazing dyno graphs on the 2.8l engines. Can't wait to see what it will do on a 4l. As for the housing, im leaning towards the 1.15. Large enough to let it breath but not too large and split pulse of coarse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMoscow Member 45 Member For: 8y 7m 3d Posted 23/10/16 02:36 PM Author Share Posted 23/10/16 02:36 PM 9 hours ago, arronm said: To make the big power you need to spin past 7K, you wont be doing that with stock cams. And then a cast crank isn't nice either. Lucky our big power car doesnt have those stock components..... That's why I'm still very much interested in the Atomic stage 4 cams. I know they have to sell their parts but after getting some much needed tuition on cams from them for free, it's hard not to be impressed. I am told the stock crank is quite good and I'll hit my power levels without upping the rev limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kerb Warrior Donating Members 612 Member For: 12y 3m 8d Gender: Male Location: Perth, Western Australia Posted 24/10/16 03:44 AM Share Posted 24/10/16 03:44 AM I've read through about half of this thread mate, and the only thing I want to mention is pick a tuner/place and stick with them for all of it, so they know the car. Personally I would go NO WHERE but Monsta Torque or Xtreme Ford Tuning. I was considering buying one that had work done from BPT and didn't buy it simply for the fact it wasn't done at one of these two places. These aren't like the 'fully sik hectik' V8 holdens than every man and his dog can work on. These are more of a fine art and the modifications have so many variables, and the tuning is super important. I'm sure you already know that due to having the GTR, but just keep that in mind. I couldn't stress enough the importance of going to only MT or XFT. That's just my opinion anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kerb Warrior Donating Members 612 Member For: 12y 3m 8d Gender: Male Location: Perth, Western Australia Posted 24/10/16 03:45 AM Share Posted 24/10/16 03:45 AM Also regarding cams. Unless you are going silly power I wouldn't. I know someone who went Stage 4 cams and while it sounded more awesome than most V8's I've ever heard, he said it was a pig to drive, even in the auto. Don't get me wrong, it's cool as hell haha. But keep in mind that driveability and good fuel economy will go out the window haha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAXRTUTE Gold Donating Members 2,639 Member For: 8y 8m 15d Posted 24/10/16 04:02 AM Share Posted 24/10/16 04:02 AM Think he will need to do cams with 1000hp being the target? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tocchi Sandtrap Motorsport Donating Members 2,055 Member For: 16y 1m 9d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 24/10/16 04:22 AM Share Posted 24/10/16 04:22 AM Put it this way. To run stage 5 atomics it's costing me ~ $5k in parts and machining for the head. Includes cost of cams.Cams will aid in getting to the power at a lower boost but I wouldn't say they are essential.The $5k I spent on headwork could be spent on a GTX45 etc with stock cams. Still 1000hp is possible 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,323 Member For: 19y 3m 10d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 24/10/16 04:24 AM Share Posted 24/10/16 04:24 AM ^WHS Real world experience right there fellas. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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