Mick63 New Member 9 Member For: 9y 4m 8d Gender: Male Posted 06/01/16 10:46 PM Share Posted 06/01/16 10:46 PM correct about lighter wheels, but a larger wheel, even with the same weight has the bulk of the weight further out from the axis so will affect it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camo86T Silver Donating Members 1,810 Member For: 10y 10m 10d Gender: Male Location: SW Sydney Posted 06/01/16 11:06 PM Share Posted 06/01/16 11:06 PM A smaller wheel will make more torqueTorque x rpm = power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick63 New Member 9 Member For: 9y 4m 8d Gender: Male Posted 07/01/16 12:00 AM Share Posted 07/01/16 12:00 AM On the road a smaller wheel is like changing diff gears and on some dyno's this may be true re the power number, but not on mainline and torque remains constant if derived torque is used 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velocityxr6t Member 122 Member For: 16y 1m 9d Gender: Male Posted 07/01/16 01:38 AM Share Posted 07/01/16 01:38 AM correct about lighter wheels, but a larger wheel, even with the same weight has the bulk of the weight further out from the axis so will affect itI can accept that, as it does take more torque (effort) to move the same weight the greater the distance from the force said weight sits. But, considering a larger rolling diameter, would the tiny amount of wheel speed loss be covered by the fact you travel slightly furthur ever rotation? Speed = distance over time, so if we're adding a bit of time but also adding a bit of distance......The more you think about it the more situational it becomes.Also, just like to clarify that small wheels don't make more torque. All wheels make exactly zero torque. They may free up some torque that was consumed moving heavier wheels, giving a net gain and higher reading, but at no point is your engine making more torque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick63 New Member 9 Member For: 9y 4m 8d Gender: Male Posted 07/01/16 01:49 AM Share Posted 07/01/16 01:49 AM which is why derived torque eliminates any associated gearing issues resulting from different rolling heights, gear choice etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camo86T Silver Donating Members 1,810 Member For: 10y 10m 10d Gender: Male Location: SW Sydney Posted 07/01/16 02:21 AM Share Posted 07/01/16 02:21 AM Also, just like to clarify that small wheels don't make more torque. All wheels make exactly zero torque. They may free up some torque that was consumed moving heavier wheels, giving a net gain and higher reading, but at no point is your engine making more torque.Correct, wheels themselves don't make torque. But they are a torque multiplier - or in this case a torque reducer.I guess my point is that with smaller wheels, engine torque won't change a scrap but you will have more torque at your output ie. wheels.This thread has derailed slightly, sorry OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velocityxr6t Member 122 Member For: 16y 1m 9d Gender: Male Posted 07/01/16 05:13 AM Share Posted 07/01/16 05:13 AM Correct, wheels themselves don't make torque. But they are a torque multiplier - or in this case a torque reducer.I guess my point is that with smaller wheels, engine torque won't change a scrap but you will have more torque at your output ie. wheels.This thread has derailed slightly, sorry OPYeah, I knew you knew. Just being a stickler and stiring the pot a little. Finding it funny having such a serious discusion about how to get slightly higher dyno readings which mean nothing once you pull the ugly stockers off and bolt the bling back on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,323 Member For: 19y 2m 29d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 07/01/16 05:15 AM Share Posted 07/01/16 05:15 AM Will the wheel take off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tocchi Sandtrap Motorsport Donating Members 2,055 Member For: 16y 27d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 07/01/16 05:18 AM Share Posted 07/01/16 05:18 AM you wheely asked that luke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velocityxr6t Member 122 Member For: 16y 1m 9d Gender: Male Posted 07/01/16 05:22 AM Share Posted 07/01/16 05:22 AM At least he didn't mention pulling off ugly stockers....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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