Lennox Member 2,586 Member For: 11y 11m 17d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 29/05/16 10:16 AM Share Posted 29/05/16 10:16 AM > I think what helped me learn what I know about cabling is I've always had access to the test equipment (fluke DTX 1800 for example) so was able to see early on the effects of a kink in the cable on the test result graph. Also yeah you can twist join a cable dodgy style and have it pass cat5 spec, it'll spike in loss right where the join is though, visible on graph. We used one of them on a very big job I was on to test the whole installation to Systimax's specs so they could certify the job ie. 10gbit/s. We took one test piece of Systimax and kinked the living f*ck out of it to test the bend radius theory... still exceeded 10gbit/s. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masda74 To Loud Gold Donating Members 4,112 Member For: 13y 2m 13d Gender: Male Location: WA, Perth Posted 29/05/16 10:39 AM Share Posted 29/05/16 10:39 AM fark, I need to change jobs and leave the IT industry. Cabling tickles my fancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discostig Manual mode ________________________ All day, erryday Donating Members 13,798 Member For: 17y 2m 19d Gender: Male Location: Probably above atmospheric pressure Posted 29/05/16 10:54 AM Share Posted 29/05/16 10:54 AM Hey I need you to install some cabling between rooms next summer...should only be 55° or so in the cramped ceiling space. No one's ever died from that, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masda74 To Loud Gold Donating Members 4,112 Member For: 13y 2m 13d Gender: Male Location: WA, Perth Posted 29/05/16 10:55 AM Share Posted 29/05/16 10:55 AM I need to loose weight. what better way to do it in budgies..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidxr6t skids Donating Members 2,754 Member For: 12y 1m 15d Gender: Not Telling Posted 29/05/16 11:02 AM Share Posted 29/05/16 11:02 AM (edited) 50 minutes ago, Lennox said: We used one of them on a very big job I was on to test the whole installation to Systimax's specs so they could certify the job ie. 10gbit/s. We took one test piece of Systimax and kinked the living f*ck out of it to test the bend radius theory... still exceeded 10gbit/s. Where were you doing copper at 10gig mate? You can sometimes get away with many things with a cable before it will fail, I generally find the cheaper stuff will break before the expensive stuff does. The reason I ask is most of my clients when their needs have gone above 1gbit they have gone to fiber. Also if you analyse the test results I bet you'd be able to approximate where the kink was (how many meters long the cable is before it's kinked). masda74: if cabling tickles your fancy then the lovely GPON systems on some mines will make you really moist. They absolutely OVERKILL it with the amount of fibers they run and they demand bi directional OTDR and light source power meter testing. I'm talking EACH block of 4 rooms has a six core fiber run to it then dual cat6 to each room. Rather than doing a 'fiber to the node' style system. I think it's cause fiber can share the trench/pit with electrical as the signal is transmitted down glass. From an IT guys perspective, I guess you'd be more used to seeing the page full of green dots showing all the clients are online. Also I'm making a decent amount of money doing residential work lately but much prefer commercial. It is nice though not having to wait for 30-90 days for some of the companies to pay up though, residential I've noticed pay me faster and if they don't pay I don't get burnt. Honestly with the cabling, I've been playing with the ubiquiti unifi's and have only done three installs and they're ffffing brilliant. You ideally want three of them but don't need to and since they mount on the ceiling I find the way they transmit the wifi signal is far superior to having a router on a desk. Just food for thought if you were thinking that decking out each room with a double cat6 point was necessary. Not everyones had a good time with the ubiquiti products but I got nothing but praise. Edited 29/05/16 11:08 AM by johnxr6t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masda74 To Loud Gold Donating Members 4,112 Member For: 13y 2m 13d Gender: Male Location: WA, Perth Posted 29/05/16 11:06 AM Share Posted 29/05/16 11:06 AM I use to do cabling until the regualations changed. We have fiber at work between sheds, I like all the orange and green lights. makes me ohhhhh and ahhhhh. I wouldn't mind getting into cabling because of the work the NBN has. I am sure they pay well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kyle Get It To Wheelspin Uncontrolably Then Give It Another 5 Pounds Cruise Control 2,697 Member For: 14y 3m 22d Gender: Male Location: Work Posted 29/05/16 11:20 AM Share Posted 29/05/16 11:20 AM since when did XR6T-WA suddenly have so many data/comms guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discostig Manual mode ________________________ All day, erryday Donating Members 13,798 Member For: 17y 2m 19d Gender: Male Location: Probably above atmospheric pressure Posted 29/05/16 11:25 AM Share Posted 29/05/16 11:25 AM (edited) I've done a short workshop course in the Ubiquiti stuff and it has some serious throughputs over massive distances if it's clear line of sight. Boss uses it to link his house to the work office fibre connection, streams movies etc and yeah the hotspots would be worth a look if we weren't happy with Sophos access points (which tie in to existing firewalls perfectly). Just got 3.9 Megabytes a second updating DOOM on PC. Sometimes 4G net isn't so bad...but could only do it because the update was 89MB and not a gig or something...ADSL size download limits are what I'm looking forward to once we move houses. Living on 6GB a month phone internet is painful. Edited 29/05/16 11:28 AM by -Stever- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidxr6t skids Donating Members 2,754 Member For: 12y 1m 15d Gender: Not Telling Posted 29/05/16 11:42 AM Share Posted 29/05/16 11:42 AM (edited) 23 minutes ago, -Stever- said: Just got 3.9 Megabytes a second updating DOOM on PC. Sometimes 4G net isn't so bad...but could only do it because the update was 89MB and not a gig or something...ADSL size download limits are what I'm looking forward to once we move houses. Living on 6GB a month phone internet is painful. You don't have good ADSL at your new place do you? or are you still waiting to find out what your sync speed will be like? mmm I'd love unlimited 4G internet. 42 minutes ago, masda74 said: I use to do cabling until the regualations changed. We have fiber at work between sheds, I like all the orange and green lights. makes me ohhhhh and ahhhhh. I wouldn't mind getting into cabling because of the work the NBN has. I am sure they pay well. Don't bother with NBN 'network' work mate it's not paid well at all. The money I've been making is where somebody has just had NBN installed and needs cabling done. I've found out that some of the installers have been offering these services to home owners too which is slightly annoying but fair enough. There is some money but it is for the more laborious tasks. So many dodgy NBN contractors out there too, absolutely not working to the standard because they are above the standard. I've complained about exactly 8 jobs all in Applecross WA that were seriously bad and it took that many complaints of their workmanship for them to tell me they'll send somebody out. Things like not sealing up wall penetrations that are in the weather and even a conduit which was open at the very top and when I opened the nbn box bloody water poured out! Edited 29/05/16 11:49 AM by johnxr6t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kyle Get It To Wheelspin Uncontrolably Then Give It Another 5 Pounds Cruise Control 2,697 Member For: 14y 3m 22d Gender: Male Location: Work Posted 29/05/16 11:59 AM Share Posted 29/05/16 11:59 AM shameless repost, just cos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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