Diy Tuning

[El Andrew]

Anyone had any horror stories with the Innovate Mtx-l wideband before I pull the trigger?

[Puffwagon]

I bought an LC-1 about 7 years ago and it still works.

 

The plastic face of the gauge has a slight crack in it from in-car heat and I had to replace the sensor once due to engine flooding.

 

I think you'd be pretty safe with this purchase.

[Ralph Wiggum]

MTX-L are a good unit.

Have one in my car.

[El Andrew]

Thanks guys - done. Grabbed the Plus version as it wasn't much more. Just a re-release with apparently faster sampling times. Will help me learn a bit about how the AFRs behave in various circumstances before I go changing anything.

[Puffwagon]

Just a tip with output signal rates;

 

You want them fast as possible for data logging to get a more complete data set but for a self tuning, live tuning situation you want to slow the output down a bit so you get a more stable and consistent number to adjust from. As for the gauge signal rate just use whatever you prefer to look at.

[El Andrew]

Makes sense, thanks. Will be interesting to see if it defaults to slower output on the gauge display or if that's customisable with the software.

[Puffwagon]

Iirc both channels are configurable on the lc1 but it's been a while since I played with the software so I can't remember what speed they are set to as default.

 

Of course things may be different as you will have a different model.

[Ralph Wiggum]

MTX-L outputs are configurable with logworks

[Ale]

Ive had a MTX for a year on my turbo Rotary, sensor died within 2000km of street use.

Innovate wheren't overalls helpfull and a bit of a pain to liaise with due to time zones.

I'd made sure to wire n plumb the unit 100% as per instructions knowing the reputation the company has for warranty claims.

After explaining to them the short sensor life they just said: #cosrotary.

Well documented that the sensors don't like rich mixtures n oil in the fuel, but others have had much success with other brands in Rotaries.

My tuner does alot of rotaries and said his sensors last a lot longer than that on his dyno, hopefully I just got a dud one first up.

 

Communication to the gauge is via serial port aswell which is very 2005....

 

If I was to purchase again , I'd buy this :

 

https://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/product_info.php/cPath/103_107/products_id/357/

Edited 19/07/17 08:49 AM by Ale

[Puffwagon]

It's a bummer that your sensor died so soon. Maybe the dyno one lasted longer due to tail pipe use vs dump pipe placement?

 

When I installed my lc1 into my ford it was already 5 years old. I replaced the sensor at install due to the previous one being flooded with ethanol and it hasn't had an issue for the last 10k km.