Redhawk ....Time to lay this fairytale aside...... Donating Members 2,657 Member For: 21y 10m 28d Gender: Male Location: In the Ferry on the River Styx, not getting out just yet! Posted 24/02/04 01:08 AM Share Posted 24/02/04 01:08 AM Good comments guys, Yes plonky....come resale time the FPV will be a better performer, that was a big consideration when buying the GT.The comment you made Ian about an extra person in the car changes the whole equation, so true, but must admit 4 adults in the GT made very little difference, if anything it handled on cornering a little better (lower ride?), no hesatation from the motor with overtaking, the power and torque made sure of that! Could not get that with the T, and the hesatation at cruising speed with the turbo was frustrating. I am actually finding that 5th gear in the GT is starting to rust up from lack of use , flicking the car between 3rd and 4th is fun and around the city as well, although the T was better from start and 2nd, having said that 2nd in both cars is short, you are at the 6k limiter before you know it! 6k rpm @ 110kph would be fantastic but the engineers have made the ratio 6k/100kph for a reason I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkey Member 337 Member For: 21y 1m Posted 24/02/04 04:08 AM Share Posted 24/02/04 04:08 AM Getting back to the topic I believe the Typhoon would be excellent value if it comes out at a list price of about 55k.From 2 different angles.1. An XR6 Turbo with 18s, Premium brakes, side airbags, Momo wheel and stick, premium paint etc will have an RRP of over 50k. This is before you up the power, improve suspension, add better seats etc and with the FPV you will still have a warranty.2. The Typhoon should have nearly the performance of a GT with similar looks/appeal and options etc but at 55k would be 7k cheaper.From both angles it looks like good value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypnodoc It's All In Your Mind Gold Donating Members 2,198 Member For: 21y 3m 9d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 24/02/04 05:05 AM Share Posted 24/02/04 05:05 AM As far as I can tell you and are I about as opposite as it gets. For example I tended to get frustrated with the turbo. Giving it more herbs won’t fix the issues I have with it so there would be no way I would order the F6. I don’t believe the turbo has the drivability of the GT especially in manual form. Auto not such an issue. And that is really all I was trying to say. Still reckon the Typhoon is gonna be a terrific car though :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSE2 Member 322 Member For: 22y 1m Location: Tasmania Posted 24/02/04 05:44 AM Share Posted 24/02/04 05:44 AM Getting back to the topic I believe the Typhoon would be excellent value if it comes out at a list price of about 55k.From 2 different angles.1. An XR6 Turbo with 18s, Premium brakes, side airbags, Momo wheel and stick, premium paint etc will have an RRP of over 50k. This is before you up the power, improve suspension, add better seats etc and with the FPV you will still have a warranty.2. The Typhoon should have nearly the performance of a GT with similar looks/appeal and options etc but at 55k would be 7k cheaper.From both angles it looks like good value. The past conversation has been on topic to a degree. It shows that this is nearly an impossible answer. Whets value and how is it judged and against what? No two people are going to come up with the same answer because our value system is different. People that are prepared to mod against people who are not, people that value straight line sting opposed to balance and then people that will acknowledge the advantage of one side over another and then critique it in such a way that the money sum doesn't add up.That mule that was talked about, well 270 was about the kws it was packing but the torque was the key to that car. It was the torque that made it special. Broken down - no car offers value for money. A depreciating asset that’s primary function is to get from A to B. Moving along from that thought we branches into desirable, recognition status and so on. We twist the argument to the point that we can nearly justify and balance the argument to accept any solution to what our heart wants.The conversation was on topic just a round about way of showing how people’s values will be different.The term value infers that we are after the cheapest or most effective way of getting the job done. There is no simple answer for that unless there is a standard to rule against.Will this car sell? I would think that would be a given. Will this car hurt other performance fords in the line up? I would think so but does this offer value in the Ford line up or against the competition, how long is a piece of string! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhawk ....Time to lay this fairytale aside...... Donating Members 2,657 Member For: 21y 10m 28d Gender: Male Location: In the Ferry on the River Styx, not getting out just yet! Posted 24/02/04 09:05 AM Share Posted 24/02/04 09:05 AM Don't know what's worse Ian, us Hijackers taking the thread off on a totally different tangent or you cutting it short with logic!! :lol: Good healthy debate is a sure sign of a mature mind, love your posts and enjoy the swapping of ideas, experiences (with a liberal dollop of humour )Keep it up mate........ In answer to your query re: WA FPV/Tickford Owners Club, last President was Andrew Green, Vice President was Peter Sertis, Secretary was Robyn Jones, if any of those names ring a bell I'll pass on your 'G'Day' at the March monthly meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducatijb Lifetime Members 3,448 Member For: 21y 10m 4d Gender: Male Location: sydney Posted 24/02/04 07:59 PM Share Posted 24/02/04 07:59 PM Getting back to the topic I believe the Typhoon would be excellent value if it comes out at a list price of about 55k.From 2 different angles.1. An XR6 Turbo with 18s, Premium brakes, side airbags, Momo wheel and stick, premium paint etc will have an RRP of over 50k. This is before you up the power, improve suspension, add better seats etc and with the FPV you will still have a warranty.2. The Typhoon should have nearly the performance of a GT with similar looks/appeal and options etc but at 55k would be 7k cheaper.From both angles it looks like good value. Can't see you driving out of a dealership in the Typhoon for 55k and I don't know where you can get a GT for 62k (in Sydney anyway)I think by the time you option up the FPVT you will not have change from the 62k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhawk ....Time to lay this fairytale aside...... Donating Members 2,657 Member For: 21y 10m 28d Gender: Male Location: In the Ferry on the River Styx, not getting out just yet! Posted 25/02/04 12:14 AM Share Posted 25/02/04 12:14 AM Getting back to the topic I believe the Typhoon would be excellent value if it comes out at a list price of about 55k.From 2 different angles.1. An XR6 Turbo with 18s, Premium brakes, side airbags, Momo wheel and stick, premium paint etc will have an RRP of over 50k. This is before you up the power, improve suspension, add better seats etc and with the FPV you will still have a warranty.2. The Typhoon should have nearly the performance of a GT with similar looks/appeal and options etc but at 55k would be 7k cheaper.From both angles it looks like good value.Can't see you driving out of a dealership in the Typhoon for 55k and I don't know where you can get a GT for 62k (in Sydney anyway)I think by the time you option up the FPVT you will not have change from the 62k Reckon you are spot on the money there duc,My GT was 68.5k drive away with not a lot of extras, Premium sound (of course), window tint and SS cold air induction being the major ones and the FPV steering wheel. I think people thinking of upgrading their T's for the Typhoon for a couple of thou are in for a BIG dissappointment. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducatijb Lifetime Members 3,448 Member For: 21y 10m 4d Gender: Male Location: sydney Posted 25/02/04 12:22 AM Share Posted 25/02/04 12:22 AM Yeah Al,I think you'll be looking at about 20-25k changeover myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkey Member 337 Member For: 21y 1m Posted 25/02/04 01:20 AM Share Posted 25/02/04 01:20 AM Getting back to the topic I believe the Typhoon would be excellent value if it comes out at a list price of about 55k.From 2 different angles.1. An XR6 Turbo with 18s, Premium brakes, side airbags, Momo wheel and stick, premium paint etc will have an RRP of over 50k. This is before you up the power, improve suspension, add better seats etc and with the FPV you will still have a warranty.2. The Typhoon should have nearly the performance of a GT with similar looks/appeal and options etc but at 55k would be 7k cheaper.From both angles it looks like good value.Can't see you driving out of a dealership in the Typhoon for 55k and I don't know where you can get a GT for 62k (in Sydney anyway)I think by the time you option up the FPVT you will not have change from the 62k Reckon you are spot on the money there duc,My GT was 68.5k drive away with not a lot of extras, Premium sound (of course), window tint and SS cold air induction being the major ones and the FPV steering wheel. I think people thinking of upgrading their T's for the Typhoon for a couple of thou are in for a BIG dissappointment. :( GuysSorry but I was talking purely LIST price.The rumoured list price of the Typhoon would be a bit more than the list price of a T optioned up to a similar level and cheaper than the list price of the GT.Of course we will have to see what the final specs and prices are and then see what sort of a deal can be done, but on the surface it would appear to be good value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducatijb Lifetime Members 3,448 Member For: 21y 10m 4d Gender: Male Location: sydney Posted 25/02/04 01:34 AM Share Posted 25/02/04 01:34 AM No worries there Sharkey,just I keep hearing 55k bandied around(paid that for my T)and I think their will be a lot of people dissappointed when they try to buy and the dealer smacks 'em between the eyes with the drive-away priceThe thing I'm still most curious about is what auto + manual gearbox this thing will have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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