Is Fpv T (typhoon) Value For Money?

[Guest Ford BOSS]

Guys, 6 speed should be available seeing as though it's BAII. Believe me, it will happen. I know the 6 speeders WILL come. It's a bit hard not to notice when they're right in front of you.........

So don't believe DRIVE. It will come.

[Redhawk]

OK........(FFA* suit adjusted and comfortable),

Not having driven a 6 speed gearboxed car I'm sticking my neck out here but from what I have heard they are not that much different from 5 speed gearboxes, the 6th gear is like an overdrive over the overdrive

Anyhow, apart from 2nd gear being a tad short I find the Tremec (and the T5 for that matter) very drivable gearboxes and with the Tremec coupled to the Boss 290.......bloody beautiful in 3rd and 4th, more than enough 'legs'...... will do me.

If the 6 speeder becomes a reality I'm sure I can bullsh!t my dealer enough to get a 'test' drive no probs, probably have to eat my words here but.........

My 2 shekyls worth

* Fear F uck All...... :lol:

[Robbo]

I've driven the 6 speed ClubSport and the 6th gear is a crock of sh*te. No torque whatsoever and you need to be doing 120 to get good use of it at all. I really can't get excited about a 6 speed box. A better 5 speed .. for sure. But where does it end ? 7 speed .. 8 speed ? Might as well be driving a truck.

I'm pretty keen to see what the Typhoon has to offer.

[HSE2]

1 The Xr8 is dead in the water.

2. If what I think is going to happen happens I believe the F6 might be worth the money.

Ford have a problem-yes another one. They failed to predict what the VY series 2 was going to do. History says they will repeat and not see what VE is going to bring to the table, so we are continuingly playing catch up.

Performance aside the other key aspect to purchase is the feature list.

A leather option on the SS now includes Climate control. It also comes complete with 18 inch wheels as standard. That is the obvious hit in the face but there are others that aren't so obvious.

Basically the FPV cars are going to have to move up the rung of donors.

I think you are going to be looking at the F6 being based on the Fairmont and if so it will offer a different type of value. To answer the question, the FPV label will be worth it for some, the extra features will be attractive to others and the fact that modifying the car in XR form has been done for them will be reason enough.

XR6T to retain performance bang for buck king through BA2

[KrasH]

I have been hearing that the FPV-T may be a coupe. I hope that's the case. But knowing our luck, it ain't gonna be true :(

@HSE2

In reply to your points.

1. Yes, I agree that the XR8 is a gonna. Realistically, if a person wants a V8 Falcon, they'd prefer the GT etc.

2. I don't agree that ford are playing catchup again. I personally think that Expensive Daewoo were playing catchup by releasing the Series II VY so quickly after the VY release. Mechanically, the Ford Falcon is still a far more advanced car than the VY is.

In regards to feature list, the base falcon still has more going for it than the base VY. I think that Ford are making a good step by adding the "Luxery Package" etc, by having alot of options under 1 unbrella. It makes people feel that they are getting better value.

I agree that the XR6T will still be king with the BA II

[OwnaXR6T]

of course it is going to be more than the XR8, the Xr8 is a fat slug!

Not only will it have 20 more kw it will have premium brakes as standard FPV seats and better suspension my car has got enough extras on it to be more expensive than the XR8. that's factory extras as well.

My bet is the F6 will be quicker than the GT and GTP as well.

[hypnodoc]

Hoon, it depends on your priorities.

The FPV model will have full warranty and no insurance hassles and possibly better resale. For sure it will have Premium brakes, 5x18's, side airbags, alarm, bodykit, better interior and bigger intercooler for more consistent performance. Possibly a better gearbox, maybe even one that's exclusive to FPV.

l reckon its worth 10 grand, but l agree it does roger the XR8.

In short this means it will go considerably harder, look better, and handle and stop much better than the standard series 1 bA turbo, and a factory will always do a better performance mod than any aftermarket establishment without any warranty issues. Roll on the series 2 and the FPV typhoon I reckon.

There will definately be a Typhoon sharing my garage with it "Boss" big brother. :banghead:

[rs2000]

of course it is going to be more than the XR8, the Xr8 is a fat slug!

Not only will it have 20 more kw it will have premium brakes as standard FPV seats and better suspension my car has got enough extras on it to be more expensive than the XR8. that's factory extras as well.

My bet is the F6 will be quicker than the GT and GTP as well.

if gt & gt-p stay as is the f6 will certainly whip the arses

[HSE2]

2. I don't agree that ford are playing catchup again. I personally think that Expensive Daewoo were playing catchup by releasing the Series II VY so quickly after the VY release. Mechanically, the Ford Falcon is still a far more advanced car than the VY is.

Unfortunately the buying public still hasn’t been able to get their head around that fact. It looks like the BA has steadied out at about 1000 units behind the Expensive Daewoo each month.

Expensive Daewoo have a model schedule that basically defies description. I don't think they are reacting to Ford at all, although perhaps the HSV 25 kw jump was to make the numbers look better. They enjoy a healthily performance advantage and while the sales are on their side Ford are always going to be playing catch up. The Turbo is the exception naturally.

The people that seem to be upset about the F6 news are, as understand it, concerned about marketing having to make such big jumps with each model. Personally I think a two year plan is a responsible model management. People that bought a turbo when they cam out are either looking at something new or 12 months away from shopping again. Holden’s approach certainly stimulates the market but I don't know too many people on a 12 month lease plan. Expensive Daewoo have to be destroying the resale, but I have been saying this for the last 3 years and they keep on selling. In the weekend paper I saw 2003 plate senator for 15 thousand less. At least the FPV ads aren't making the reduction public knowledge.

Only one company appears to have any concern over how owners feel at the pointy end of the market. T series owners were or at least an attempt was made to look after them. In some ways nothing has changed. As performance owners of Fords we had to accept and encourage Ford to try to get back in the game and that meant an aggressive model rotation trying to address the power deficit.

Ford reacted to HSV with Series 3 T. The cars were brought in line with HSV models. The moment they did HSV moved the goal posts basically back to where Ford had been standing, with the exception that the HSV cars and the SS had not only engine numbers to back it up but also runs on the strip. There would be a Ford enthusiast in this country that acknowledges that the Boss cars are a good thing. They are also going to say that they are too slow for the numbers they pack. They are happy and disappointed at the same time and Ford is going to have to address this problem.

The F6 should bring credibility back to the FPV stable, (IF) the packaging is correct. It will be a dear XR6 turbo so FPV have to give the customer real reasons to shop factory and not aftermarket.

The people crying out for a kw advantage to be retained in the GT range won’t fix this problem. They need speed into these cars not KWs. The GT is a name that deserves to be creditable in every facet of performance, not 7 out of 10. When the product is as good as the XR6T life is always going to be tough. Having said that the Boss program was rushed and under done.

Edited 16/02/04 04:27 AM by HSE2

[Adam]

Guys, 6 speed should be available seeing as though it's BAII. Believe me, it will happen. I know the 6 speeders WILL come. It's a bit hard not to notice when they're right in front of you.........

So don't believe DRIVE. It will come.

Good to see ya Geoff!