Cav999 New Member 6 Member For: 9y 5m 8d Posted 03/08/15 10:50 AM Share Posted 03/08/15 10:50 AM Hey guys, I apologise in advance if there is already a thread on here somewhere about this..I'm looking at buying a reasonably new second hand ute and for a long time now I've been quite fond of the FG Mk2.For those of you who know the area, I live in Nelson Bay and travel 5 days per week to Newcastle for work (68km one way). As I'm sure many of you would understand, I have my heart set on the Xr6t, however after reading through several reviews, I've developed an opinion that the n/a xr6 is a much more reliable car than it's forced induction counterpart. Due to the extensive driving I do during the week, reliability is unfortunately my absolute top priority.To provide a little more context, In the last 12 months I've done 40,000kms so it's really important to me that the car I purchase provides reliability in the long term.So my question is, would any of you consider the n/a fg mk2 ute to be significantly more reliable than it's turbo counterpart? Also, would you consider the manual transmission to be more reliable than the zf 6 speed? I've heard about the dreaded 'Zf milkshake' however after reading more reviews I've come to associate this mainly with drivers who do heavy towing.Ultimately, I desperately want the turbo, but I need to know that she won't give me too many headaches! One way or another, I need to make up my mind once and for all!!Please advise.Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiftyOne Bronze Donating Members 1,145 Member For: 11y 6m 10d Gender: Male Posted 03/08/15 11:18 AM Share Posted 03/08/15 11:18 AM (edited) Welcome to the site mateMy opinion for what it's worth is most of the reliability issues come from modifications. This said, cars regardless of type, all require ongoing maintenance. If it's a turbo car (of any make) you need to commit to running a higher obtain fuel and torque manifolds every now & again for example.The milkshake you're referring to is actually caused by the heat exchanger failing, and really there's nothing you can do about that except swap the exchanger out for a pwr unit. The Zf if a good box too. It's quicker than the manuals and it's smooth Edited 03/08/15 11:20 AM by FiftyOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cav999 New Member 6 Member For: 9y 5m 8d Posted 03/08/15 11:45 AM Author Share Posted 03/08/15 11:45 AM Thanks for the reply, and thanks for the warm welcome!I'm happy to commit to the requirement for higher quality fuel and also to the increased consumption - the extra power is worth the cost in my opinion.In saying that though, I don't think the extra power is worth the inconvenience associated with any significant reduction in longevity or reliability.If keeping the xr6t stock means it will maintain the reliability and longevity of a n/a xr6, I think I'd be happy to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiftyOne Bronze Donating Members 1,145 Member For: 11y 6m 10d Gender: Male Posted 03/08/15 09:13 PM Share Posted 03/08/15 09:13 PM Yeah, not to say they are bullet proof, but they're not that bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnz Member 3,047 Member For: 11y 1m 22d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 03/08/15 10:33 PM Share Posted 03/08/15 10:33 PM There really is no significant increase in maintenance. both cars will flog out bushes, wheels bearings and brake rotors. Servicing cost is pretty much the same. Diff bushes on the turbo flog out quicker as both cars have the same sh*t design, the turbo just puts more stress on them. The ZF in the N/A and turbo are infact different but both have the same milkshake risk. All these ailments can be fixed with quality parts and rego is the same for either. So pretty much fuel and tyres are the only real difference maitnence wise. In stock form I dont think the turbo is any more prone to failure than the N/A. Start modifying ANY car and something will break or wear quicker. Thems the brakes...Sent from my R5 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTR_NITRO_FG Donating Members 3,214 Member For: 11y 7m 17d Gender: Male Location: NOR Perth Posted 04/08/15 02:52 AM Share Posted 04/08/15 02:52 AM What about servicing intervals? The N/A would be every 15k? Turbo should be done at least every 10k but most on here would do every 5000-7500kms??? The turbo is awesome....but you'll eventually want a tune Plus its not as easy as saying "all N/A will be more reliable" because there's always the chance of getting a lemon (still read plenty of threads with people having issues in their XR6, etc).I think it comes down to what you want out of your car...for me performance was #1....so the turbo was a no brainer lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tocchi Sandtrap Motorsport Donating Members 2,055 Member For: 16y 1m 17d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 04/08/15 03:07 AM Share Posted 04/08/15 03:07 AM Had a FG F6 ute as a work ute ... useless apart from when I did track days in it,Go the N/A - cheaper, still will do the job, write it off on tax, smile all the way to the bank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizkets is Drunk? Too heavy needs boost Member 5,929 Member For: 11y 5m 5d Gender: Male Location: Adelaide Posted 04/08/15 03:11 AM Share Posted 04/08/15 03:11 AM Get a diesel hilux or ranger if your doing sh*t loads of kms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnz Member 3,047 Member For: 11y 1m 22d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 04/08/15 03:38 AM Share Posted 04/08/15 03:38 AM I would still service an N/A every 7500 but that's just me..Biz, Tocchi and Nitro all have a good point. You need to decide what it is your really want out of it? On the highway the difference between an na is negligible if your sensible with the loud pedal. But if fuel economy is important then both are the wrong car really. Perhaps you should be tossing up between a turbo or a nice diesel 4x4 which are around the same money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggy_b Member 94 Member For: 11y 8m 20d Posted 16/08/15 02:50 AM Share Posted 16/08/15 02:50 AM As above, get a turbo diesel ute. My 2014 ranger used 8L/100km and do 900+ kilometres to a tank for ~$100 a fill for a reference. Does that all day everyday, city or highway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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