2007 Fpv Tornado Ute - Tinkering & Setup

[PhilMeUp]

5 hours ago, turboknapp said:

Working on a car with only a jack under the front, keen is all I will say.

Yep, I was slack last night.  I normally put axle stands under there as well, but I wasn't actually under the car.  The bumper and air filter are at the front, washing underneath was just a matter of waving the pressure washer wand around and putting the splash guard screws back in was also easy.

3 hours ago, k31th said:

I'm no tyre inspector, but these look fine to me... The supposed "wear" has reduced the contact patch of the tyre by such a small amount... but you don't have to have full contact patch to pass a roadworthy, only have the ability to disperse water - which these tyres have heaps of ???  - someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Yeah, I didn't think that there was a problem with them, but someone that was going to do an inspection on the car said that he wouldn't pass them.

2 hours ago, turboknapp said:

Putting into perspective, with all the running around and purchasing of second hand tyres and general time wasting OP could have had a new set of tyres put on. 

I want new tyres on the car now, but I don't have the suitable rims yet.  Once I get an 18x9 or 18x10 rim finalised for the rear then I can get new tyres.  Until then, I've pursued the cheapest temporary option to get the car in a roadworthy condition.  Don't forget that I can later use those tyres on my taxi, so I'll be getting my money's worth out of them.  

1 hour ago, FiftyOne said:

Correct. And also one of the most head strong and capable people I've had the pleasure of meeting. Can't knock a guy for striving for what he really wants

There is actually a master plan for all of this, but it hasn't been coming through properly in recent posts.  Cost is a major factor, and although the tyres fiasco looks like a waste it was the cheapest option at the time.  

49 minutes ago, turboknapp said:

Color me blind, but what is he striving for. To try and do things on the cheap and nasty as to get past a Pit Inspection, which if he had listened to the advice from the start the whole saga would have been done and he would have a lot more money in his pocket?

I'm all for people tinkering and working on their cars, its what build the passion for ownership but this saga of trying to get around an Emissions test etc is getting beyond a joke.

I vastly underestimated what it will take to get this car through an inspection.  This car has been here for eight months now, and it's still unlicenced.  I've been very pissed off with the whole project for a while now, and it gets ignored for weeks at a time.

I've taken the car to heaps of places and asked a bunch of questions.  But, I keep getting answers that sound good initially, but turn out to not be an effective solution.

Obviously, a standard intake plenum is going to have to go back on at some stage, and I've got one of those here.  I checked the part number, and it turns out that all the Falcons used the same plenum.   I've got one on an old taxi motor. 

But, then there's the matter of piping from the Plazaman intercooler to where the throttle body will sit on a standard plenum.   To buy piping for just the one use is going to cost hundreds of dollars.  Just to use for one day.  

There have also been a bunch of things that I can't post here.   There has been wheeling and dealing with different people that can get the car through an inspection, but they haven't come through.   I've been fed crap by a few people, and that's dragged things out a hell of a lot.  

[FiftyOne]

Maintain the rage Philly

[k31th]

maintain as in manage to a lower level (ie become less angry) or maintain as in keep it at that level?

[turboknapp]

1 hour ago, PhilMeUp said:

Yep, I was slack last night.  I normally put axle stands under there as well, but I wasn't actually under the car.  The bumper and air filter are at the front, washing underneath was just a matter of waving the pressure washer wand around and putting the splash guard screws back in was also easy.

Yeah, I didn't think that there was a problem with them, but someone that was going to do an inspection on the car said that he wouldn't pass them.

I want new tyres on the car now, but I don't have the suitable rims yet.  Once I get an 18x9 or 18x10 rim finalised for the rear then I can get new tyres.  Until then, I've pursued the cheapest temporary option to get the car in a roadworthy condition.  Don't forget that I can later use those tyres on my taxi, so I'll be getting my money's worth out of them.  

There is actually a master plan for all of this, but it hasn't been coming through properly in recent posts.  Cost is a major factor, and although the tyres fiasco looks like a waste it was the cheapest option at the time.  

I vastly underestimated what it will take to get this car through an inspection.  This car has been here for eight months now, and it's still unlicenced.  I've been very pissed off with the whole project for a while now, and it gets ignored for weeks at a time.

I've taken the car to heaps of places and asked a bunch of questions.  But, I keep getting answers that sound good initially, but turn out to not be an effective solution.

Obviously, a standard intake plenum is going to have to go back on at some stage, and I've got one of those here.  I checked the part number, and it turns out that all the Falcons used the same plenum.   I've got one on an old taxi motor. 

But, then there's the matter of piping from the Plazaman intercooler to where the throttle body will sit on a standard plenum.   To buy piping for just the one use is going to cost hundreds of dollars.  Just to use for one day.  

There have also been a bunch of things that I can't post here.   There has been wheeling and dealing with different people that can get the car through an inspection, but they haven't come through.   I've been fed crap by a few people, and that's dragged things out a hell of a lot.  

why not just change the whole lot back to factory, will be easier than trying to mix and match parts.

As stated, dedicate your time to just doing it right and forget the wheeling and dealing look where it has gotten you!

[PhilMeUp]

Bring both your cars to me, for $65/hour I will swap the bits over to get the car sorted for inspection.

You organise a car trailer/retune for factory tune, get it finished.

As we covered in PM a while ago, if you're available some time then the job is yours.  

On 11/18/2015 at 4:21 PM, turboknapp said:

why not just change the whole lot back to factory, will be easier than trying to mix and match parts. As stated, dedicate your time to just doing it right and forget the wheeling and dealing look where it has gotten you!

Setting things back to standard is out of my league.  It needs to be done, but I don't have the skills and experience to do that.  I know a fair bit about the rest of this car from my taxi background, but I know just about nothing about turbo stuff.

So, I need someone to do that for me.  In anticipation of that, I actually collected a lot of the standard stuff when I first got the ute.  I've got a standard intake plenum, dump pipe, cat, intercooler and airbox. Don't have standard injectors, though.

I've asked around at workshops, but they're still in the mining boom days (ie pricing).   One place was saying that it would be about $600 for labour to put a standard manifold on and then put the Plazmaman plenum back on after the inspection.  Plus the cost of some piping.  Another place that I went to this week was talking about, "two grand to get it over the pits... and then another two grand to set it back again."  Stuff that.

Even if I do get it done at a workshop then I won't learn anything.   This is my third ute project in 18 months, and although they've been a sh*tload more work than I ever expected, I've also learned a lot.  If standard stuff goes back on then I'd rather be able to watch it get done and ask the occasional question.  

With all of this, I have had no training - I have had no-one to teach me.  I certainly don't have any natural talent for this stuff - I am one clumsy dickhead at times.  

So, if anyone has the skills and experience with this stuff, then contact me.

[barnz]

you got a xcal with this one didnt you? put stock sh*t on, flash to stock, pits. Reverse

[PhilMeUp]

1 hour ago, barnz said:

you got a xcal with this one didnt you? put stock sh*t on, flash to stock, pits. Reverse

Nup, no Xcal.  Which means I can't just flash it back to stock.  

 

[FiftyOne]

Don't let the 'turbo stuff' spook you Phil. From speaking with you, working with you & seeing your posts, this isn't so much out of your league.  Maybe just cause it's a bastard of a bunch of parts you're dealing with but from what I've seen of your work, if you can get the bits & get it together, the rest is easy.

 

My suggestion for what little its worth, swap the pipes & mani back to stock. Get it all looking A1.  Leave the ecu, dump & injectors in place. Make the rest as unimpeachabley clean as possible.

Ok, here's the deal. With that tune & so on, that's a different issue, so leave it.  Drive the thing for a few days & see if the DTC light comes on, drive like grandma k?

Then get it to the pit.  No codes, runs ok bla bla. They look & hopefully dont know FPV's dont have 5" cats. If they drive it hard, it MAY throw a code? but might not too. In that case, you ask why they where driving your ute around hard enough for the light to come on? "wtf you done to me ute mate?" 

Look, as long as the thing can run in vacuum without throwing a code, I'd say you're good.

[turboknapp]

If I didn't currently have my own car in pieces and prepping for a baby on the way, I would help you out.

12 hours ago, FiftyOne said:

Don't let the 'turbo stuff' spook you Phil. From speaking with you, working with you & seeing your posts, this isn't so much out of your league.  Maybe just cause it's a bastard of a bunch of parts you're dealing with but from what I've seen of your work, if you can get the bits & get it together, the rest is easy.

 

My suggestion for what little its worth, swap the pipes & mani back to stock. Get it all looking A1.  Leave the ecu, dump & injectors in place. Make the rest as unimpeachabley clean as possible.

Ok, here's the deal. With that tune & so on, that's a different issue, so leave it.  Drive the thing for a few days & see if the DTC light comes on, drive like grandma k?

Then get it to the pit.  No codes, runs ok bla bla. They look & hopefully dont know FPV's dont have 5" cats. If they drive it hard, it MAY throw a code? but might not too. In that case, you ask why they where driving your ute around hard enough for the light to come on? "wtf you done to me ute mate?" 

Look, as long as the thing can run in vacuum without throwing a code, I'd say you're good.

Do not do this, it will put you even further behind. FiftyOne's point bout tackling yourself is valid, its nuts and bolt which you can do in the driveway. Any one would be a fool to think that the pit inspectors don't know what stock looks like, let alone trying to hold one responsible for an engine light coming on when trying to deliberately circumvent the process.

[masda74]

I think that a maintenance day in WA is way overdue.

I think we should have a maintenance day soon at Phill's House and we all work on one car only.

We work on Phill's car to get it back to stock??? You okay with that Phill?

Free labour!!!