[Tyres] Grippy And Soft Or Average And Hard, What Will Last Longer Wit

[rollex]

So I've bought some achilles 123S 265x45x18 tyres (260 tread wear very soft sticky tyre) for my XR6T with around the 300-340rwkw mark depending on the dyno. When brand new they hooked up in first most of the time and always in 2nd, now only 1800 kms later and they are down to 40% tread on the rear and about 85% on the front. They hook up sort of in 1st and most of the time in 2nd, but traction obviously down massively since new.

Now that they are spinning up the tread is no doubt going to be gone before 5000 kms are up which is not really acceptable. Now I realise soft tyres will wear faster due to being softer but they also offer more grip. The question is will harder tyres (around 350-400 tread wear) that spin 1st from day one last longer? Obviously not as soft, but if they spin up more often this might mean they wear out faster.

Ultimately I'm looking for a tyre that puts the power down and will last 5000kms. I'm not doing burnouts, simply full throttle in a straight line on good road surfaces. The stock turbo comes on hard like a light switch so it is quite hard to feather the throttle, once you lift off even slightly it loses almost all boost.

These tyres are about ~$200 a corner, I would up the price to about $300 If they will last 5000 kms, but any more and it would be cheaper to just keep buying these tyres and changing them twice as often.

What do people with big power use that will last?

Cheers

[Lennox]

Yes hard tyres last forever. I Have some nankangs that are 400 treadwear I think and they barely even smoke when I do a burnout

They still look almost brand new after a year which is a bad thing cos I want an excuse to replace em - they are deadly in the wet

[Bizkets is Drunk?]

get nittos. not bad for the money. I have nt830 but invo are great in the wet with control.

[Never had any say Panda]

Cheap

Grippy

Long lasting..

When it comes to tyres you only get to choose two..

How would invo's go for day to day use?

123S are a semi slick from memory.. Even the treadwear rating is a bit misleading as semi compounds aren't really deigned to handle day to day driving on varied road surfaces..

A bloke I work with runs whatever the federal semi slick is daily.. He's pulling about 8000kms to a set of rears in a turbo supra which isn't treated too gently..

[rollex]

I don't expect what I want to be cheap, however I do want to optimise the amount I spend. Eg putting new semi slicks on every 2500kms for $200 a pop is better value than putting a harder tyre on for $400 that only lasts 4000 km.

Though when I say optimise cost per km, I don't want to completely sacrifice performance, traction in 2nd is a requirement, I'll settle for it spinning up in 1st.

Which model invo and nitto tyres are you guys talking about? I'll do some reading and try and price them up

[arronm]

Not many tyres will give good grip in first. I use nitto invo as a good compromise. But no full throttle until third gear.

[Seaton]

Agree the Nitto Invos are a good everyday tire. Want more rear grip than that? I found the NT05 pretty good. But loses grip as it wears past 1/2 life. Also is a lot noisier.

[discostig]

I'm on some 420 treadwear tyres right now, Achilles ATR Sport 2. Not good in the wet but they are taking an absolute beating. Would prefer Invos for grip like you desire...these are cheap though at about $180ea fit and balanced in 245/40/18.

This is after about 15,500km of driving, and many, many "low traction events", most short, some very sustained. I often boot it after a corner. Little troopers. They spin up in a straight line in second with about 320rwkw in a stock turbo BF (bit laggier) though.

Look at the bottom for an idea of remaining tread as it's not a close pic, sorry.

Edited 28/12/14 12:05 PM by -Stever-

[Bizkets is Drunk?]

getting ripped steve. $155 for 19" in adelaide

[Lennox]

I didn't realise the atrs were that hard!! Gonna be invos for me next time I think.