MattyP MattyP Cruise Control 6,317 Member For: 12y 7m 7d Gender: Male Location: Central Coast Posted 10/10/14 12:26 AM Share Posted 10/10/14 12:26 AM I think progressive power is best I went from a 1uz soarerTo a ba xr8To a stock g6To 350rwkw g6To 440rwkw g6If I had gone straight to 440rwkw no doubt I wouldn't be here right now You need to learn and appreciate the power Anyone can step in and hit the loud pedal. You need to respect it and understand it. The misses sister almost came unstuck driving my car for that very reason 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buf-Phoon loitering with intent Lifetime Members 13,318 Member For: 21y 3m 23d Gender: Male Location: Zombie Birdhouse Posted 10/10/14 12:57 AM Share Posted 10/10/14 12:57 AM Matty P is right. to a point. Increasing power is one thing. Other elements like handling, stopping need to be in lock stepwith power increments.additionally a P plater with sh*t brakes, shot suspension, and all the dramas associated with a 200+k or 10 year old caron a budget with poor maintenance and all the power mods. How does that end ? not wellRust buckets in the sky 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,323 Member For: 19y 2m 18d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 10/10/14 01:28 AM Share Posted 10/10/14 01:28 AM I don't believe (comparatively ) speaking it's any worse today than it's ever been.Think back to the average 70's 80's 90's P Plater mobiles. They likely had less power yes, but they also had suspension that at it's best was worse that a clagged out BA. They had inferior tires(from a construction point of view) and won't mention how poor the brakes are,Crumple zone?(Oh you mean the drivers head? etc etc)So whilst 300rwkw will get them into the tree much faster the safety built into these cars (abs,srs,crumple zone,energy absorbing cabin materials etc etc) mean at their unsafest they are still a safer option.You only need to look at any crash involving a car to car impact between any 2000's era car and something from the 80's/early 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeze_dk I am dissatisfied with my current employment situation Donating Members 8,610 Member For: 18y 2m 13d Gender: Male Posted 10/10/14 01:31 AM Share Posted 10/10/14 01:31 AM Nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buf-Phoon loitering with intent Lifetime Members 13,318 Member For: 21y 3m 23d Gender: Male Location: Zombie Birdhouse Posted 10/10/14 01:41 AM Share Posted 10/10/14 01:41 AM Ruke all true, however the difference in power V tree is staggering.However fark ups don't always hit trees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,323 Member For: 19y 2m 18d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 10/10/14 01:59 AM Share Posted 10/10/14 01:59 AM Car V Tree @ 100kph is Car V Tree @ 100kph doesn't really matter how quickly the car got to 100kph.Agree with your post as well tho Buffalicious. Just using tree as a broad example.LOL "Broad" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never had any say Panda I <3 Floods Silver Donating Members 11,198 Member For: 13y 4m 11d Gender: Male Location: South West QLD Posted 10/10/14 02:08 AM Share Posted 10/10/14 02:08 AM Fark ups also hit cafes, pedestrians, cyclists and that's just naming the ones I've seen..Frankly the power of the car doesn't matter when it hits something.. It's the momentum of the car.. Any car can leave the road at 100km an hour and hit a tree and the power of the engine makes no difference to the outcome of the crash..Higher power cars just allow us to get to stupid a lot quicker than most..Randomly enough my professional opinion is that P Platers in high power cars aren't that dangerous (but I don't think burnouts are dangerous either - that's not saying that I think they should be done on public roads though).Higher power or low power you're gonna get a Muppet who wants to see how fast he can go..High power maybe more unstable with quick acceleration but if they lose it under 60 the severity of the accident will be a lot lower..Biggest thing is about teaching them that if they want to be a knob, don't be a knob with people around or passengers in the car.. You'll never stop young people (and some old people) having testosterone moments.. But if you can educate them to minimise the collateral damage then you're making some headway.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buf-Phoon loitering with intent Lifetime Members 13,318 Member For: 21y 3m 23d Gender: Male Location: Zombie Birdhouse Posted 10/10/14 02:17 AM Share Posted 10/10/14 02:17 AM take it to the track , have fun and learn. ftw 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnz Member 3,047 Member For: 11y 21d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 10/10/14 04:35 AM Share Posted 10/10/14 04:35 AM All of the above are my sentiments exactly, I've seen more than enough huge accidents involving low powered cars to know that driver ability and attitude are 99% the cause of fatal accidents. A good friend of mine was killed in a car driven by another idiot "friend" when we were just about to finish high school. P plater travelling 120+ km/h on a 70 km/h rd that had a lot of rises and dips in an EH 6cyl. Short of it is the thing got a bit loose over a rise at high speed and a passenger was ejected and met with a tree. Low powered car, low driver ability, innocent people dead.Ralph is right if anything the cars of today just save more idiots and thankfully the innocent. People are still retards, things like dsc ect make retards better drivers.Much better driver training and mandatory defensive driving training would help more than anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiftyOne Bronze Donating Members 1,145 Member For: 11y 5m 10d Gender: Male Posted 10/10/14 08:31 AM Share Posted 10/10/14 08:31 AM Karting. Taught me much respect about lots of stuff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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