JETURBO ...JD TUNING ADELAIDE... Gold Donating Members 23,708 Member For: 16y 6m 18d Gender: Male Location: Adelaide Posted 03/10/14 03:10 AM Share Posted 03/10/14 03:10 AM LoL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollex Member 683 Member For: 10y 6m 11d Gender: Male Location: Australia Posted 03/10/14 03:26 AM Author Share Posted 03/10/14 03:26 AM (edited) If you think 1k for VCM Suite is expensive, your going to sh*t yourself when you find out whant and Xcal-4 and Tune is going to cost.A corporate nistune license was also well over $1k, Xcal software etc obviously are designed for tuning houses so it is fair to expect the $5-10k or whatever licensing is, for a single car customer license that is limited it would be reasonable to expect that you could get a license for under $1k, it seems as though they don't cater for the average joe and all their pricing is aimed at workshops that will make a profit out of their software.Nistune for example recognise there are at home tweakers and hence sell a simple license for $200 that can only be used on 1 car. As I mentioned above, there are other multiplier that would make it unlikey that you would see 14deg What do you mean? It will add fuel etc to stop it pinging, or it will not pull 14 degrees for some reason and will continue to ping? Edited 03/10/14 03:28 AM by rollex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45T-XR Donating Members 417 Member For: 17y 9m 13d Gender: Male Location: Gladstone, Queensland Posted 03/10/14 03:32 AM Share Posted 03/10/14 03:32 AM If you think 1k for VCM Suite is expensive, your going to sh*t yourself when you find out whant and Xcal-4 and Tune is going to cost.That is a shame. Hopefully that will help my ZF last or even improve! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETURBO ...JD TUNING ADELAIDE... Gold Donating Members 23,708 Member For: 16y 6m 18d Gender: Male Location: Adelaide Posted 03/10/14 03:33 AM Share Posted 03/10/14 03:33 AM Funny guy is being funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,323 Member For: 19y 2m 26d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 03/10/14 03:35 AM Share Posted 03/10/14 03:35 AM Im unsure what your point is mate. You cannot use nistune to tune these cars so continually bringing it up is pointless.If you choose to have you car tuned by a shop using SCT you'll need to Purchase an Xcal (Aprox 700) and then pay for the tuners time. I've not had my car tuned by a shop for many years but I would budget 1300 to 1500 for an intial Xcal Purchase and tune.SCT no longer offer the racer pro package. So as a hobbyist you cannot tune your car with SCT.There are other multipliers that will add and also subtract timing based upon numerous other conditions so it is unlikely the knock retard system would ever A: need to reduce timing by 14deg or B:have 14 deg of timing retard available.Im done now as this thread is starting to smell a bit Nistroll to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollex Member 683 Member For: 10y 6m 11d Gender: Male Location: Australia Posted 03/10/14 03:36 AM Author Share Posted 03/10/14 03:36 AM Im unsure what your point is mate. You cannot use nistune to tune these cars so continually bringing it up is pointless.If you choose to have you car tuned by a shop using SCT you'll need to Purchase and Xcal (Aprox 700) and then pay for the tuners time. I've not had my car tuned by a shop for many years but I would budget 1300 to 1500 for an intial Xcal Purchase and tune.SCT no longer offer the racer pro package. So as a hobbyist you cannot tune your car with SCT.There are other multipliers that will add and also subtract timing based upon numerous other conditions so it is unlikely the knock retard system would ever A: need to reduce timing by 14deg or B:have 14 deg of timing retard available.Im done now as this thread is starting to smell a bit Nistroll to me.I am getting an SCT and getting it tuned by someone, I can then buy HP tuners if I want but probably won't due to the price.Not sure why you are getting annoyed? I'm just asking questions to learn, sounds like you need a hug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollex Member 683 Member For: 10y 6m 11d Gender: Male Location: Australia Posted 03/10/14 03:42 AM Author Share Posted 03/10/14 03:42 AM (edited) I've spent years in the nissan scene hence why I keep comparing, just trying to get my head around the way tuning etc works in the xr6 arena as it seems quite different. Edited 03/10/14 03:42 AM by rollex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45T-XR Donating Members 417 Member For: 17y 9m 13d Gender: Male Location: Gladstone, Queensland Posted 03/10/14 03:49 AM Share Posted 03/10/14 03:49 AM A corporate nistune license was also well over $1k, Xcal software etc obviously are designed for tuning houses so it is fair to expect the $5-10k or whatever licensing is, for a single car customer license that is limited it would be reasonable to expect that you could get a license for under $1k, it seems as though they don't cater for the average joe and all their pricing is aimed at workshops that will make a profit out of their software.Nistune for example recognise there are at home tweakers and hence sell a simple license for $200 that can only be used on 1 car. What do you mean? It will add fuel etc to stop it pinging, or it will not pull 14 degrees for some reason and will continue to ping?Yes they are a multiplication of the the base table. Then assuming there is no others coming into play it would be (desired ignition advance-(knock limit x multiplier table) For example say for high IATs there might be a multiplication factor of 1.15, that increase the base value by 15% then that number would be subtracted from the timing in the MBT table. It is a bit more complicated as there can be a few multiplier tables in effect in each calculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETURBO ...JD TUNING ADELAIDE... Gold Donating Members 23,708 Member For: 16y 6m 18d Gender: Male Location: Adelaide Posted 03/10/14 07:31 AM Share Posted 03/10/14 07:31 AM Can my nissan be tuned with SCT lukas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVK Silver Donating Members 751 Member For: 19y 1d Gender: Male Location: North West Hot Hell,VIC Posted 03/10/14 10:34 AM Share Posted 03/10/14 10:34 AM Wouldn't be a bad sleeper project Butt plug, Early model skyline with an xrt donk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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