Cypher Member 68 Member For: 21y 5m 23d Posted 08/02/04 07:27 AM Share Posted 08/02/04 07:27 AM aps said: Thanks for your info on the supra weight, I will investigate further to reconfirm the excact weight of the US spec Supra, and yes I believe your corret on the Soarer info I will look further into that also this week. ThanksPeter I would also suggest you also have a look at what the Japanese have done with the Supra. After all it is a Japanese car and they love drag racing.The Japanese do tend to change the V160 at about 900 - 1000hp mark as most drag racing Supra's run a twin turbo set up (read loads of torque).I will find out more info and relay it as it becomes available. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/8921-t5-box-split-topic/page/11/#findComment-90975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo6man Lifetime Members 4,084 Member For: 22y 6m 2d Gender: Male Location: South Coast NSW Posted 08/02/04 07:27 AM Share Posted 08/02/04 07:27 AM WBT56 said: Turbo6man said: I'm pretty sure the diff is the same Dana/Spicer in the T6 as is in my T3.Turbo6man, your T series runs the same 78 series borg warner as the rest of the AU range. Gearsets in 3.08, 3.27, 3.45, and 3.73 and upwards are readily available. The Turbo and V8 BA run the new Dana/Spicer M86 diff, which is a completely different animal. Gearsets are available in ratios of 3.08, 3.23 and 3.46 at this time. Thanks Ben> I'm very interested in a taller ratio; 3.08 would be just enough to get me where I want to go with my driveline when I toss the TR3650. I am pretty sure though that I have the Dana/Spicer unit in my T3 - it does have DANA stamped on it so ...BTW, do you guys do the diff ratio swap? Maybe you can give me a ball-park figure? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/8921-t5-box-split-topic/page/11/#findComment-90976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBT56 Mal Wood Automotive Member 457 Member For: 22y 5m 5d Gender: Male Posted 08/02/04 10:42 AM Share Posted 08/02/04 10:42 AM Turbo6man said: ..Thanks Ben> I'm very interested in a taller ratio; 3.08 would be just enough to get me where I want to go with my driveline when I toss the TR3650. I am pretty sure though that I have the Dana/Spicer unit in my T3 - it does have DANA stamped on it so ... Can you email me a picture? It should have a yellow or white sticker on the RHS of the main casing. This will have part number and serial number, and the ratio. It may say Dana on the sticker. It should be 3.45 ratio, LSD. The main case should have one vertical bolt on the front RHS to hold the diff to the IRS cradle. The M86 has two horizontal bolts on each side of the main case. The last TE 50 I did had the 78 series, but who knows? Ben. You have PM. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/8921-t5-box-split-topic/page/11/#findComment-91036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
edo Member 44 Member For: 21y 2m 28d Posted 08/02/04 11:25 PM Share Posted 08/02/04 11:25 PM I think the difference in Supra weights are going to be coming from two areas. The first is the manufacturers weight will be dry (no oil,coolant etc) & the second is that if these guys in the US are drag racing they probably have bigger radiators, sumps, oil coolers, turbos, intercoolers etc plus they are probably running roll cages.BTW, the supra TT getrag is also used in the R34 GTR nissan (where it cops a bigger punishment due to the 4wd traction off the line) & the BMW M5...so that negates the weight concern. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/8921-t5-box-split-topic/page/11/#findComment-91151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo6man Lifetime Members 4,084 Member For: 22y 6m 2d Gender: Male Location: South Coast NSW Posted 09/02/04 07:46 AM Share Posted 09/02/04 07:46 AM edo> The BMW M5 is not actually that heavy - I know it is considerably under my T3's 1900 plus kilos .... I'm trying hard to remember ... hmmmmmm ... I'm coming up with around 1650kg. As always my alzymers makes me a little uncertain ... Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/8921-t5-box-split-topic/page/11/#findComment-91364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom XR Member 27 Member For: 21y 10m Posted 09/02/04 09:04 AM Share Posted 09/02/04 09:04 AM Turbo6man said: hmmmmmm ... I'm coming up with around 1650kg. As always my alzymers makes me a little uncertain ... More like 1890kg (4024lbs) Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/8921-t5-box-split-topic/page/11/#findComment-91413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo6man Lifetime Members 4,084 Member For: 22y 6m 2d Gender: Male Location: South Coast NSW Posted 09/02/04 12:16 PM Share Posted 09/02/04 12:16 PM Venom XR said: Turbo6man said: hmmmmmm ... I'm coming up with around 1650kg. As always my alzymers makes me a little uncertain ...More like 1890kg (4024lbs) Hmmm.... I just had to go back and check of course. I am not a close follower of these vehicles but after checking I found the E34 was listed at 1670 kg. Must be the one I had in mind??? I also see that the newer models are around 1800kg - as with all makes and models weights seem to be very vaguely represented Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/8921-t5-box-split-topic/page/11/#findComment-91467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
edo Member 44 Member For: 21y 2m 28d Posted 09/02/04 11:36 PM Share Posted 09/02/04 11:36 PM Again you will find that manufacturers will understate the real weight of the vehicles. Ford doesnt say anywhere that your car weighs over 1900kg, its says 1750 or so. The real weight will be heavier & Id bet just about anything that the latest M5 (with the 6 speed box) is heavier than your T.It doesnt really matter. None of these cars are feather weights. The fact that they run the box in the 4wd GTR which will transfer much more torque into the box than any 2wd (less wheelspin) is a good indication of the box's strength. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/8921-t5-box-split-topic/page/11/#findComment-91536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom XR Member 27 Member For: 21y 10m Posted 10/02/04 01:51 AM Share Posted 10/02/04 01:51 AM Turbo6man said: Venom XR said: Turbo6man said: hmmmmmm ... I'm coming up with around 1650kg. As always my alzymers makes me a little uncertain ...More like 1890kg (4024lbs) Hmmm.... I just had to go back and check of course. I am not a close follower of these vehicles but after checking I found the E34 was listed at 1670 kg. Must be the one I had in mind??? I also see that the newer models are around 1800kg - as with all makes and models weights seem to be very vaguely represented BMW M5 Specs Heavy sucker. In any case, the Getrag 6 speed is a great box. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/8921-t5-box-split-topic/page/11/#findComment-91569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aps Member 1,505 Member For: 22y 1m 5d Posted 11/02/04 11:15 AM Share Posted 11/02/04 11:15 AM (edited) edo said: I think the difference in Supra weights are going to be coming from two areas. The first is the manufacturers weight will be dry (no oil,coolant etc) & the second is that if these guys in the US are drag racing they probably have bigger radiators, sumps, oil coolers, turbos, intercoolers etc plus they are probably running roll cages.BTW, the supra TT getrag is also used in the R34 GTR nissan (where it cops a bigger punishment due to the 4wd traction off the line) & the BMW M5...so that negates the weight concern.Edo, I am now very confused as to why and how car manufactures specify car weights in different markets, though I can now confirm that the actual weight of the US spec supra goes just on 1700KGS (3740 pounds ) wet. Just goes to show you cant believe everything you read on a web site.PeterAPS Edited 11/02/04 11:16 AM by aps Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/8921-t5-box-split-topic/page/11/#findComment-92066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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