Xr6 Turbo For P-Plater <Merged Topic>

[Gloo]

Tell him to hurry up and join the club.

Sick of people dribbling sh*t about how I should not be allowed my car. If the driver wants to be a dick then they will, regardless off age. If he buys one and kills him self, he was more or less going to kill or hurt him self any way because that's the type of person they are.

And like hens said. A stock one isn't fast enough that it will kill and unexperienced driver.

Also freeze, whats wrong with a 40k loan. I have had 300k worth of debt since I was 18, I dont see what your point is. Do you buy everything with cash?

f*ck all who discriminates against a persons age, if he wants it, tell him to get it regardless of what stereotypical douche bags have to say about the matter.

[rob666]

Having been in the situation before, here are my thoughts.

1) The loan on a second hand vehicle. 40k? Crazy. How old is he? I'm guessing 18-19? Does he realise the interest he'll be paying back on a loan like that. He'll likely have hardly any credit so the rates will be ridiculous. I guess I don't know the guy so I can't judge there.

2) He'll get done. Cops aren't stupid. I drove my 180SX on my P's for 6 months. All good. Then one night, got done. Lost my license for 3 months. He'll be paying back a 40k loan on a car he can't drive. My 180SX had no signs of being a turbo either, so that is invalid.

3) He writes the car off, whilst he can register and insure it. Insurance will likely turn around and say "you weren't supposed to be driving it" and they won't cover him.

He's on his greens. He had what, 1-2 years max to wait? Tell him to save up for 2 years then his loan won't be so big and he can drive it legally...

[bradles024]

I bought my Typhoon when I was on my P's, although I only had 2 months to go. I only drove it once or twice, hardest thing I ever done but kept thinking to myself if I smash it, that's it game over. I got insurance easily enough, but was sure that they would not pay out if I smashed it. And 40k seems massive for a second hand car, he'd be paying back around 50-55k?

That said, it's damn hard not to do it lol

[xcopbf]

you know what let him do want he wants, if he gets it and does not pay the loan to bad, drives to fast and crashes to bad, loses license to bad. if he gets away with it all goodluck. he is old enuf to drink,smoke,vote,drive, we have no right to judge with what he does with his cash or anything he does in life . but if it goes pear shape he will grow up real fast.

[Henz]

2) He'll get done. Cops aren't stupid. I drove my 180SX on my P's for 6 months. All good. Then one night, got done. Lost my license for 3 months. He'll be paying back a 40k loan on a car he can't drive. My 180SX had no signs of being a turbo either, so that is invalid.

Your 180sx had no signs of bieng turbo :o

Do it as a company vehicle and your safe as houses in the laws eyes.

[jim985]

Tell him to hurry up and join the club.

Sick of people dribbling sh*t about how I should not be allowed my car. If the driver wants to be a dick then they will, regardless off age. If he buys one and kills him self, he was more or less going to kill or hurt him self any way because that's the type of person they are.

And like hens said. A stock one isn't fast enough that it will kill and unexperienced driver.

Also freeze, whats wrong with a 40k loan. I have had 300k worth of debt since I was 18, I dont see what your point is. Do you buy everything with cash?

I think the things you are missing are, its fine if he kills himself but there is always the change it wont be a single car accident or he will have passengers.

A 300k debt is most likely not a car loan. If you bought a house or a business then you would be looking to make a capital gain to offset the intrest on the loan. A car on the other hand you are getting hit with intrest and depreciation, so you lose 2 ways.

Any car is fast enough to kill an inexperienced driver, or any other driver. The danger is when people forget this.

[bradles024]

[quote name='henz' date='01 October 2010 - 06:29 PM' timestamp='1285921771' post='1044420

Do it as a company vehicle and your safe as houses in the laws eyes.

Am involved in a court case atm disputing this. Highway Patrol copper (who else?) would not believe what my VicRoads printout said, claiming there was no way it was right, and I needed an official statement from vicroads saying I had an exemption to drive the car, which is in contrast to the Automatic Exemption from Vicroads - P plates & probationary prohibited vehicles : VicRoads where it claims;

No exemption document is required from VicRoads in these circumstances. However, the onus is on the driver to provide evidence to the police if requested.

[Gloo]

I think the things you are missing are, its fine if he kills himself but there is always the change it wont be a single car accident or he will have passengers.

A 300k debt is most likely not a car loan. If you bought a house or a business then you would be looking to make a capital gain to offset the intrest on the loan. A car on the other hand you are getting hit with intrest and depreciation, so you lose 2 ways.

Any car is fast enough to kill an inexperienced driver, or any other driver. The danger is when people forget this.

@ Issue number one: Your dead set right, I got all fired up without thinking that threw properly.

@ Issue number two: Yes I bought a house, but it was more of a point of every one stating 40k loan is a bad idea for a 18yo, regardless. Just how I took it. Whats interest on a car loan at the moment 9, 10%? So your looking at about 4g a year in tax and about 74 a week I think. More to the point, no one spends there money wisely, some better than other yes, but no one "never" waists some. So who are we to say he does not want to waist his money on paying off a car with interest and that will depreciate at a stupidly horrifying rate. In the end he will waist some, most, or all of his money. At least his money will be going towards something rather than waisting a "larger" portion on nothing. EG drugs alcohol junk food porn.

@ Issue number three: Your right once again, and my point was the same, it was more of case that regardless of the car you drive, its all a risk and if he drives sensible then there is no difference. I just portrayed it wrong the first time, I was getting all worked up.

[Kv!]

Do what you want.

De-badge it, spray the cooler black, if he must have tint, darkest legal only. DRIVE SENSIBLY

I was in a similar position years ago, I bought a r33 gtst when I was 17, drove it through out my probation period without any hassles at all, I put it down to 50% dumb luck and 50% sensible driving.

Tell your mate to pick one up at the auctions for $25k+

Lets be honest, we all break the law in some way or the other, who are we to say what someone can and cant do?

Meh, my 2 cents

[jonn]

just my 2 cents.

my mate.. when on green p's, bought his fg xr6t. drove around for 3 months debadged, control arm broke on a rough bump and went around a corner and ended up in a ditch. ofcourse the cops came, poped the hood and noted it was turbo.. got a fine for driving a high powered vehicle and insurance covered him, knowing he was driving a car he wasn't supposed to be driving.

if your paying for insurance they should cover you.

justcar told me that when I bought my T with a couple weeks left on my p's.