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Hp Tuner Vs Xcal4


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Nice stuff tony !

Me to but I had to learn the hard way with a vk 208/blue head/ stractors/holley 350/mapped dizzy/crow cam/ rockers and a bunch of other crap

Went sub 80rwkw :( spent heaps ( over 10k )

Sold it for $2800 to some young punk, those were the days lol scheet what a waste at least yours did something decent

I remember a street machine article saying it was "easy" to spin up 300hp out of the basic 6 Expensive Daewoo donk without what was thought to be a massive cam ! Still don't believe it N/A but iam sure its been done before

I got piks somewhere but also need to scan them haha

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  • I'm getten too old for this s**t
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I paid 1900 (I think) for a pair of 'new' YTs for the 253 back in the early 80's when everyone was diing to be the first street car to have 1 1/2 hp per cube.........now it's so easy to get 2 or even 3 hp/cube.

Gotta love experience and modern tech.

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I did some of tuning on my skyline on a dyno via nistune, I'm an electronic engineer and have contributed to decompiling and modifying the rom in the Nissan unit, I've even looked at modifying on the fly k factor tuning for flex fuel via using the o2 feedback when at idle .

I've also seen the sh*t tunes that many tuners do so I would like the capability to tweak and modify the results if I'm not happy with it.

I'm well aware of how easily you can pop your motor if you randomly change things with no idea what you are doing, but thanks for assuming I have no idea what I'm doing.

Obviously it is cheaper to pay someone to do a one off tune however I'm a perfectionist with my tunes and have never been happy until I spend another 40+ hours in it myself.

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Rollex that's great ive spent some time with Anthony cece who has the most niztunes under his belt Australia wide and is the R&D bloke for the niztune developer ( when and if they require additional tables ) helps when you live literally across the road from each other

I assume you know Anthony ?

We /me and bloosted ( JD tuning ) are showing Anthony how to tune / modify/ not blow up xr6T's and even he has said its VASTLY different to the "norm" and is an undesirable way of tuning a car ( flash style ) and this wizard has tuned everything

Trust me when I say its no way as easy as a 10 min live niztune

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We /me and bloosted ( JD tuning ) are showing Anthony how to tune / modify/ not blow up xr6T's and even he has said its VASTLY different to the "norm" and is an undesirable way of tuning a car ( flash style ) and this wizard has tuned everything

Trust me when I say its no way as easy as a 10 min live niztune

Yeah I've met Anthony but not much more than a few conversations, spent more time with Pete from nistune as my source of information.

What are the main differences in tuning styles? I'd be interested in what you know.

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Correct me if I'm wrong but with live tunes you edit on the fly and see your results in real time on the dyno.

With our Ts you essentially have to guess a good map. Run it on the dyno. See the results then adjust accordingly and re flash the ecu.

It's a very long process compared to the live tunes

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Correct me if I'm wrong but with live tunes you edit on the fly and see your results in real time on the dyno.

With our Ts you essentially have to guess a good map. Run it on the dyno. See the results then adjust accordingly and re flash the ecu.

It's a very long process compared to the live tunes

This is how we used to do the old ECUs in the 1980s skylines before nistune was invented, flash the chip, put it back in the ECU, dyno, pull it out, put it back in eeprom flasher.

If the process is streamlined so you can do the flash, dyno, flash, dyno it wouldn't be that far off real time tuning, you just don't have map tracing I'm guessing?

What else is different or would be considered counter intuitive with hp/sct ?

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