Hp Tuner Vs Xcal4

[Ralph Wiggum]

  On 13/08/2014 at 12:53 PM, arronm said:

People should be allowed to detonate of over-fuel their cars if they wish. Me I use a tuner. Drive in , drive out, all good.

Who fits your swaybars?

[arronm]

Not the guy that tunes the car. As usual let down by workers.

And that's all I have to say about that.

[Mrs Jeturbo]

  On 13/08/2014 at 10:30 AM, rollex said:

I want to get a tuner to tune my car but want the ability to edit modify and improve their tune.

Sounds like hpt is the way to go.

What makes you think you have a greater knowledge than a professional (I use that term loosely in some cases lol)... secondly ... that's not your intelectual property... its like me buying a Davinci painting and putting a dot on it and calling mine.

If u wanna learn to tune then get HP... If u wanna dick around with an existing tune and not blow you car up then get an Xcal

Edited 14/08/14 12:34 AM by Princess Fluffy

[MattyP]

If you've paid for it though it's yours to do whatever you want with it.

We do our own mechanical work on our cars.

Why not tune them ourselves?

There's plenty of forums and knowledgeable people out there to help.

So why not?

[Mrs Jeturbo]

Matty P...

Your talking to the woman who played with her own car on our dyno ..and had to basically learn how to tune coz JET never shuts up about it lol...

Im fine with people tuning their own sh*t ... but I just think its firstly lazy to copy someones sh*t, secondly who says they did it right and your then learning wrong, and thirdly I just think theres more to be said about the members on here who have knowledge coz they made the effort not to just 'play' with someones tune but learnt, and theyre better for it.

[Peppy_t92]

This is an age old argument and let's not get into it again...

If you are truly willing to do the hard yards and learn for yourself HP is the way to go, you start with a fresh stock file and work from there, it's not something that will be learnt in a day..

There's a lot of very knowledgable people that are willing to help you providing your willing to learn.. I'm taking it at my own pace and I've started from the ground up, it really is exciting learning new things and watching it come to life

[Z2TT]

From what I understand, they are just as good as each other in what things you can modify on the ECU.

And there is nothing wrong with tuning your own car, same goes for changing your own oil, brake fluid

there is no shortcuts to learn its all trial and error so who cares if your a professional or not, this professional

stuffed my brothers Lexus up so I had to learn how to diagnose it and fix it all up myself but it took time and money

and hours of studying.

I'd agree with others its a learning curve,

All the tables and parameters are going to be much more complex than old Delco ECU's in 80's Nissans

If only I could afford a workshop space and Dyno I'd love to tune my own car and learn, in 2009 I got fined $800 for road tuning/testing my car

it was funny because the officer asked "ok so whats the reason you were speeding?".

Edited 14/08/14 03:05 AM by Z2TT

[45T-XR]

I have done soooo much road tuning. It sucks for learning. Controlled conditions and the dyno are best for learning. Approach a few shops and see if they will allow you to pay them an hourly rate to ramp the car for you while you have a play, I find they are usually keen when it is them ramping the car, and you pay cash after hours/weekends.

[turbotrana]

I nearly got done for road tuning my turbo trana once. I was lucky they were in a V8 Commodore.

[JETURBO]

Turbo trana

Just wow

Actually got piks ? Sounds good