rollex Member 683 Member For: 10y 6m 6d Gender: Male Location: Australia Posted 03/08/14 10:04 AM Share Posted 03/08/14 10:04 AM Sorry for making yet another injector thread, but I can't seem to find any consensus or the information I need from a search.I am looking to make 300rwkw on a BF XR6T with the possibility to run E85 and make a maximum of 350rwkw in the future. I do not want to compromise on idle or low load performance, so if this means going a smaller injector size and not ever going to E85 then that is ok.I have seen a few injectors mentioned multiple times, ID 1000cc and siemens 60lb (600cc??), which injector has the best spray pattern that does not mean compromising on fuel economy and idle yet will make this sort of power. Also which (if any) injectors bolt straight in with no modifications, I am happy to modify the rail but would prefer bolt in injectors.Do FG and BA/BF all use the same fuel rail?Also cost is a factor eg if they are only slightly better but cost double I don't think I would purchase them, but if it means getting a bolt in example then I would be happy to pay more.So what do people recommend?Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiftyOne Bronze Donating Members 1,145 Member For: 11y 5m 13d Gender: Male Posted 03/08/14 11:22 AM Share Posted 03/08/14 11:22 AM (edited) I've seen cars making mid 300's with the siemans 60's. I've also spoken to tuners that all say the 1000's are the go as they can be setup to idle & drive like normal ones pretty easy. I'm planning a build much like what you're looking for power wise (98 only), initially I was set on 60's but I'm thinking now about 1000's. ID also make 875's & 750's which I think would be far better suited size wise but there are people out there using them so can't be all bad. If your interested in a set of 60's let me knowRails are different between f's & b's Edited 03/08/14 11:23 AM by FiftyOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPM Motorsport Member 968 Member For: 19y 1m 22d Gender: Male Location: 2 Dunorlan Road Edwardstown S.A. 08 82999998 Posted 03/08/14 11:34 PM Share Posted 03/08/14 11:34 PM Sorry for making yet another injector thread, but I can't seem to find any consensus or the information I need from a search.I am looking to make 300rwkw on a BF XR6T with the possibility to run E85 and make a maximum of 350rwkw in the future. I do not want to compromise on idle or low load performance, so if this means going a smaller injector size and not ever going to E85 then that is ok.I have seen a few injectors mentioned multiple times, ID 1000cc and siemens 60lb (600cc??), which injector has the best spray pattern that does not mean compromising on fuel economy and idle yet will make this sort of power. Also which (if any) injectors bolt straight in with no modifications, I am happy to modify the rail but would prefer bolt in injectors.Do FG and BA/BF all use the same fuel rail?Also cost is a factor eg if they are only slightly better but cost double I don't think I would purchase them, but if it means getting a bolt in example then I would be happy to pay more.So what do people recommend?ThanksHiWe can offer our KPM injector rangeThey are a direct fit to your BA-FG modelsKPM550cc Injectors supports 300-350 rwkw Petrol $99 eaKPM1000cc supports 450 rwkw petrol / E85 $99eaFor the BA-FG you will need 6 x electrical US-Bosch adaptor $10 eaOur injectors are Bosch EV14 enhanced , matched tested and data generated by KPMWe believe that we have the best offering for injectors in Australia,Best pricing3 Year GuaranteeTech support/PhoneOvernight FreightCorrect data for all Australian models 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH8TOADS Silver Donating Members 3,618 Member For: 19y 5m 6d Gender: Male Location: OZ Posted 04/08/14 09:40 AM Share Posted 04/08/14 09:40 AM Are the KPM550cc the GT500 injector with the six hole director plate or something different?. If they are the 52lb GT500 injector they need to be installed the right way due to the bent angle spray pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollex Member 683 Member For: 10y 6m 6d Gender: Male Location: Australia Posted 04/08/14 11:06 AM Author Share Posted 04/08/14 11:06 AM Bruce from Heinrich Performance and Tuning said he likes using the 60lb siemens injectors, what is the general opinion of these, are they a new generation injector with a good spray pattern? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyP MattyP Cruise Control 6,317 Member For: 12y 7m 10d Gender: Male Location: Central Coast Posted 04/08/14 11:20 AM Share Posted 04/08/14 11:20 AM If they are in LBs pretty good indication they aren't exactly current gen.The standard is id1000s. They give a great spray pattern. Idle like stock and are good for 450rwkw on e85.I haven't heard anything bad about KPMs either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollex Member 683 Member For: 10y 6m 6d Gender: Male Location: Australia Posted 04/08/14 11:23 AM Author Share Posted 04/08/14 11:23 AM Why is that, isn't that just an american thing eg hp vs kw?I personally haven't heard anything good (or bad) from them, however the IDs I have heard lots of good so I'm still up in the air.WIth the ID's what mods are required to fit them also what kind of money am I looking at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 18y 6m 17d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 04/08/14 11:24 AM Share Posted 04/08/14 11:24 AM ID's will work nicer than the 60lb injectors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRK Member 361 Member For: 13y 1d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 04/08/14 11:50 AM Share Posted 04/08/14 11:50 AM Plus one for the 1000cc iD's over the 60lb units.. Amazing how a thing that can potentially deliver that amount of fuel can deliver such great idle (IMO better than factory) and overall throttle response. Get the right part and they are a routine install for a good shop. Bux wise - shopping time.Americans ....... feet/inches/yards... lbs..... fluid ounces / quarts/ gallons ( not even an imperial gallon ) ........ bit arcane...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollex Member 683 Member For: 10y 6m 6d Gender: Male Location: Australia Posted 04/08/14 01:03 PM Author Share Posted 04/08/14 01:03 PM Ok thanks guys, from some more googling it sounds like they are the way to go, installation wise what is required from you guys who have fitted them, mod the rail or they install with spacers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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