FiftyOne Bronze Donating Members 1,145 Member For: 11y 5m 13d Gender: Male Posted 20/07/14 02:27 PM Share Posted 20/07/14 02:27 PM Wanted to gather some opinion on injector selection for my build. Planning to only run 98 NOT e85, looking to make no more than 350kw. A lot of people have been telling me that the ID1000 is deffinately the way to go, can be made to idle well, etc but I have my reservations due to size of the unit. I'm just wondering if the smaller sizes on offer will make it a little easier to tune & hone in on the idle/open road tune. I was planning to use a siemans deka 60lb unit which I know a guy uses and develops about the same power.On a side note, peoples opinion whether a pump boost/surge/upgrade is required? more from a tunability point of view? just to stop any tapering of the fuel pressure at higher boost & rpm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 18y 6m 17d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 20/07/14 02:53 PM Share Posted 20/07/14 02:53 PM ID1000's are nicer even at idle compared to the 60lb, Bels G6ET has KPM 1250's and idles at 550 rpm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETURBO ...JD TUNING ADELAIDE... Gold Donating Members 23,708 Member For: 16y 6m 13d Gender: Male Location: Adelaide Posted 20/07/14 09:03 PM Share Posted 20/07/14 09:03 PM GENUINE id 1000's are an amazing injector and can very easily idle better than smaller injectors on the market 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPM Motorsport Member 968 Member For: 19y 1m 22d Gender: Male Location: 2 Dunorlan Road Edwardstown S.A. 08 82999998 Posted 20/07/14 11:36 PM Share Posted 20/07/14 11:36 PM (edited) Wanted to gather some opinion on injector selection for my build. Planning to only run 98 NOT e85, looking to make no more than 350kw. A lot of people have been telling me that the ID1000 is deffinately the way to go, can be made to idle well, etc but I have my reservations due to size of the unit. I'm just wondering if the smaller sizes on offer will make it a little easier to tune & hone in on the idle/open road tune. I was planning to use a siemans deka 60lb unit which I know a guy uses and develops about the same power.On a side note, peoples opinion whether a pump boost/surge/upgrade is required? more from a tunability point of view? just to stop any tapering of the fuel pressure at higher boost & rpm?HiI would suggest the following for the power levels you target:Both supply perfect idles , safety and drivabilty.KPM1000cc injectors $99 eaWalbro 460 Intank fuel system $790- includes anti surge module- high flow fuel pressure regulator- plug and play relay/wiring kitAll are direct fit with no mess or modifications.We can supply o/night with a 3 year warranty and phone support. http://www.kpmauto.com/tabid/223/CategoryID/17/List/0/Level/a/ProductID/232/Default.aspxdavid@kpmmotorsport.com.au Edited 20/07/14 11:37 PM by KPM Motorsport 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiftyOne Bronze Donating Members 1,145 Member For: 11y 5m 13d Gender: Male Posted 21/07/14 09:45 AM Author Share Posted 21/07/14 09:45 AM Hi KPM. What sets your product apart from an Injector Dynamics unit? Also, for an approx 350kw tune, will a standard pump arrangement keep up, in your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPM Motorsport Member 968 Member For: 19y 1m 22d Gender: Male Location: 2 Dunorlan Road Edwardstown S.A. 08 82999998 Posted 24/07/14 04:18 AM Share Posted 24/07/14 04:18 AM (edited) As with ID injectors , our products are Made by Bosch.We utilise Bosch injectors and enhance them to a higher flow capacity.The injectors are then characterised and matched into sets of +/- 1% variation. This is done on specialised equipment by specialised engineers in house by KPM.We do not out source any work and we do not distribute other companies products.All KPM Injectors are enhanced in Australia with exact data generated to suit Australian vehicles.We are the only injector company to offer 3 Year Warranty on our injectors and free telephone support.We believe our products are second to none and our offerings and value are the best in Australia.Increasingly , many professional workshops around Australia and New Zealand are realising the value of KPM injectors and purchasing locally.I would suggest that at 350 rwkw you will be close if not already maixuming your standard system and will be best served with a Walbro 460 Intank Fuel system.This would deliver fuel for up to 450 rwkw and maintain perfect fuel pressures.I hope this all helps Edited 24/07/14 04:20 AM by KPM Motorsport 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiftyOne Bronze Donating Members 1,145 Member For: 11y 5m 13d Gender: Male Posted 23/08/14 09:40 AM Author Share Posted 23/08/14 09:40 AM So back to my original question, would an 850 or 725 ID(or KPM alternitive) injector work just as well but allow the ECU to hone in on the trim better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixy Angel Expert Donating Members 9,132 Member For: 19y 9m 17d Gender: Male Location: North Jamberoo, NSW Posted 23/08/14 10:28 PM Share Posted 23/08/14 10:28 PM Listen to the above gents mate theyre in the know.I just bought 1000's thinking ahead just in case I want more power. I say get the 1000's save $$$ from having to buy another set later onDo it right first time and save save save 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnz Member 3,047 Member For: 11y 24d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 23/08/14 10:43 PM Share Posted 23/08/14 10:43 PM (edited) ^^^ salesman muchGiven the negligible price differences between the kpm550 to the 1500's. I don't see why anybody would get any less than the 1000's.I assume the reason the 550's and 1000's are the same price is the labor that goes into them. Edited 23/08/14 10:43 PM by barnz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiftyOne Bronze Donating Members 1,145 Member For: 11y 5m 13d Gender: Male Posted 24/08/14 09:30 AM Author Share Posted 24/08/14 09:30 AM Thanks Pixy. I know what your getting at but I plan to have overhead in my build with a slightly upgraded pump setup, not an oversized injector. Even on 98 I know a 1000cc unit will make an easy 400-500 with the right fuel supply but I'm looking to make mid 300's. Again, the question I ask is more focused on if a smaller injector (ie the others I origianlly pointed out) is going to give finer tuning control 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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