MattyP MattyP Cruise Control 6,317 Member For: 12y 11m 4d Gender: Male Location: Central Coast Posted 30/07/14 04:46 AM Share Posted 30/07/14 04:46 AM Get stuffed all you shock works guys I just got my Koni reds 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discostig Manual mode ________________________ All day, erryday Donating Members 13,798 Member For: 17y 4m 15d Gender: Male Location: Probably above atmospheric pressure Posted 30/07/14 04:50 AM Share Posted 30/07/14 04:50 AM Cheers tburke, good read.Makes me feel like MattyP though, I'm repping the Koni Reds as well. They are great (car handles very well after engine mounts and swaybar/link pin upgrades) but would love to try a set of shockworks in my land barge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tburke Member 15 Member For: 10y 8m 22d Gender: Male Posted 30/07/14 11:11 PM Share Posted 30/07/14 11:11 PM Love the Konis. And I'm practically one the family at Toperformance. I've had red or yellow ones on most of my 35 cars, going right back to a '69 Alfa Romeo Berlina 1750.However! Back-to-back on my Soarer which had Koni yellow gas/King springs, the car was much, much nicer in all ride and handling dimensions with Shockworks coilovers.Shockworks can also give you independent results showing a variety of cars that are lapping faster (and some the fastest in the world!) with their set up. On the road, on the track, these are better. Better value too.The Sachs standard dampers are actually OK, just a bit stiff-legged and numb - they treat big and small bumps the same. The front and rear ends seem disconnected too. I'm sure I'll get a more sophisticated ride and "alive" feeling car with their OEM replacements. I'll update when it happens. (Note the nice, short paragraphs Platinum DM) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 29,381 Member For: 16y 11m 29d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 30/07/14 11:23 PM Share Posted 30/07/14 11:23 PM I do thank you for the change. It was much easier to read.I'm sure that Shockworks do a great product... there's enough people in just this thread to attest to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber Carnage on the Garage Floor Donating Members 3,994 Member For: 14y 10m 28d Gender: Male Location: Gold Coast Posted 31/07/14 08:03 AM Share Posted 31/07/14 08:03 AM Are they as good a Tein's though because my mail is 2k for the shockworks kit. If that's the case, there's not a lot in it. XYZ's are $500 less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Stripes. All stock bar the k&n panel filter Silver Donating Members 8,061 Member For: 13y 26d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 31/07/14 08:12 AM Share Posted 31/07/14 08:12 AM I found my Teins to be a little too tight, and when talking to Brett about his Shockworks kit he suggests that with these cars there is such a thing as too stiff. They need a bit of movement to get the power down and increase grip. The EDFC you can get with the Tein's is cool...but a bit gimicky, I don't miss it. From what I've read the Shockworks are much better on the road than the Tein's...on the track...not sure? A lot of the drift guys over on the Toyota 86 forums rave about the Shockworks kits for their car, they rate them higher than kits costing 2-3 times as much as the Shockworks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenDoCo I'm getten too old for this s**t Bronze Donating Members 4,509 Member For: 12y 1d Gender: Male Location: A big bridge over a river in South Australia Posted 31/07/14 09:02 AM Share Posted 31/07/14 09:02 AM (edited) Cheers for the story 'bout the Soarer mate and who gives a flying fark about paragraphs .............. welcome to the forumOTdoes it make you feel better to point out everything that you don't agree with? FFS Edited 31/07/14 09:03 AM by BenDoCo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tburke Member 15 Member For: 10y 8m 22d Gender: Male Posted 04/08/14 01:35 AM Share Posted 04/08/14 01:35 AM Its all about traction. Maximum acceleration, cornering, braking needs maximum traction. Too soft or too stiff = less traction. (Yes, we ARE still talking about suspension.)Tyres are part of the equation; just a little. I've found that the tyres my car came with win points for cheapness, not so much for traction. Stiletto Blue Streaks. I think they are a new Teflon compound - they don't stick to anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 29,381 Member For: 16y 11m 29d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 04/08/14 01:38 AM Share Posted 04/08/14 01:38 AM On 04/08/2014 at 1:35 AM, tburke said: too stiff = less traction Tell that to (almost any kind of) race cars and their manufacturers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senna_T Forged Member Lifetime Members 15,818 Member For: 18y 2m 1d Gender: Male Location: SW Sydney Posted 04/08/14 02:07 AM Share Posted 04/08/14 02:07 AM He's right Keith - for a street car more so, but even for race cars. Even if you have full slick tyres and aero you can still have suspension that is too stiff. Its all relative to the application. On a street car with street tyres you might find 800lb is way too stiff but on a race car with slicks and a caged up body it's far too soft. Current V8 super cars run anywhere from 900-1400 in the front but the Tein Super Street for your falcon are around 620lb. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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