45T-XR Donating Members 417 Member For: 17y 8m 15d Gender: Male Location: Gladstone, Queensland Posted 30/06/14 03:54 AM Share Posted 30/06/14 03:54 AM If you are going to do some sort of blend of the two you will need a vary good relationship with your tuner, and I doubt many would do it. It is always best to flash the car to stock first then start with HP, you don't know what tables the SCT tuner has used to add timing fuel etc as there are plenty of modifyers etc. And with HP have a crap scanner still atm you can't log sufficiently to prove it. Don't let me deter you from Getting HP by all means but personally I think your either all in or all out, no middle ground... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nxr06 Donating Members 117 Member For: 20y 6m 26d Posted 30/06/14 04:17 AM Share Posted 30/06/14 04:17 AM (edited) <p>Hope they make more of an effort to complete all vehicle definitions properly to have at least as many tables as SCT does.....</p> Edited 30/06/14 04:18 AM by nxr06 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discostig Manual mode ________________________ All day, erryday Donating Members 13,798 Member For: 16y 11m 28d Gender: Male Location: Probably above atmospheric pressure Posted 30/06/14 04:29 AM Share Posted 30/06/14 04:29 AM (edited) Regarding the flash counter, an SCT based shop can't even be sure if you messed with it with HP based on number of flashes done, as I have 3 tunes on my XCAL3 and I could load up ten a day bouncing between the files. Edited 30/06/14 04:29 AM by -SteveR- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosij Donating Members 2,045 Member For: 13y 3m 11d Gender: Male Posted 30/06/14 04:51 AM Share Posted 30/06/14 04:51 AM I must say, I pay good money for a tune it's mine. If I can extract it so be it.... Then there's others who use this to make money from, that's where it goes south quick smart! Grey area but common sense needs to be added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenDoCo I'm getten too old for this s**t Bronze Donating Members 4,509 Member For: 11y 7m 15d Gender: Male Location: A big bridge over a river in South Australia Posted 30/06/14 08:05 AM Share Posted 30/06/14 08:05 AM I'm sure you all know by now that I am lacking in the common sense department so in my case, I'm glad that ratter locked mine.My engine may live longer without me "thinking" I know what I'm doing and trying to change things but I can understand how people with the knowledge and skills in this area should be able too but who is gunna determine who that is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 18y 5m 25d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 30/06/14 09:36 AM Share Posted 30/06/14 09:36 AM I can not lock SCT tunes, I do do a few things though to make sure some body trying to copy them, can not apply the same changes though to another tune and have them work properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe@cms Member 129 Member For: 15y 5m 6d Gender: Male Posted 30/06/14 10:02 AM Share Posted 30/06/14 10:02 AM dejavu ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbotrana Member 2,586 Member For: 21y 7m 22d Gender: Male Posted 30/06/14 11:51 AM Author Share Posted 30/06/14 11:51 AM That makes sense now. All this time I am thinking you guys can't tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 18y 5m 25d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 30/06/14 12:28 PM Share Posted 30/06/14 12:28 PM who cares what the software numbers say when the cars go as well as they do and just keep on going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never had any say Panda I <3 Floods Silver Donating Members 11,198 Member For: 13y 3m 21d Gender: Male Location: South West QLD Posted 30/06/14 01:55 PM Share Posted 30/06/14 01:55 PM I must say, I pay good money for a tune it's mine. If I can extract it so be it.... Then there's others who use this to make money from, that's where it goes south quick smart! Grey area but common sense needs to be added.This applies in my job (not a tooner).. We work with a lot of calculations that not every company has developed.. It's a wonderful thing called 'intellectual property'.. People pay me to use my formulas and my knowledge to solve their problem. In the process they may get a spreadsheet with my formula on it.. They do not own or are legally allowed to re-use that sheet.. They paid for a solution to their problem.. Not for the years of knowledge, experience, trial and error we have poured into refining how we got to that result..So even though they may be able to unlock my spreadsheet using a piece of software they found on google.. Doesn't mean they should and it doesn't mean I'm liable in court if they fudge something up by editing it themselves and only understanding a fraction of what is going into the spreadsheet.Oh and I can bet these people are paying a sh*tload more than you blokes pay for tunes. If you wanna tweak your tune learn from Ralph,Toads,jet,45TXR etc.. Buy the software start from scratch.. Learn what you are doing.. Know what you are changing.. Experiment.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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