AzMahoony Hench, but no longer shredded or tanned. Member 3,343 Member For: 17y 8m 17d Gender: Male Location: Canning Vale, W.A Posted 10/06/14 10:07 PM Share Posted 10/06/14 10:07 PM Arghhh im looking forward to seeing it mate hopefully you can make a decent dent and manufacture performance parts at a profitable rate yet still achieve an affordable price for us average joeblows.Who knows you could even make 2 variants of the intake 'stealth' (less bend in pipe to create less dose/flutter for the lads who arnt into it and 'aggressive' (much more angle in the bend/yet room to fit) for those of us that like to scare the skirts off sheilas walkin bySent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10SECN Member 516 Member For: 11y 7m 13d Gender: Male Location: west hoxton Posted 10/06/14 10:07 PM Share Posted 10/06/14 10:07 PM what about muffler delete,, $200 for something that can be home made for under $50... hows that justified? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MA91CK billet turbos and weathered engines dont mix Donating Members 1,346 Member For: 12y 6m 23d Gender: Male Location: Wollongong Posted 10/06/14 10:10 PM Share Posted 10/06/14 10:10 PM what about muffler delete,, $200 for something that can be home made for under $50... hows that justified?That will be availible too. I can undrstand 100-150 when you think they cut and paint the pipe, joiners arent cheap, then hose clamps. You might get away with 50 for sh*te parts, but using australian made and quality its just not feasable as a business to charge 50 bucks. You would lose moneyat that price. But I do agree 200 is steep. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Sucker Moderating Team 32,303 Member For: 20y 7m 20d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 10/06/14 10:27 PM Share Posted 10/06/14 10:27 PM Best of luck with it mate. There's no doubt a healthy margin in these products, but that's why people take the risk in setting up a business is to get a healthy return. You don't put your balls on the line to just break even. Also factor in the cost of developing new products or adapting products to suit new models, both PW & Plazma have had to do this at considerable expense which then has to be recovered from future sales. For someone to come along after the hard work has been done and sell something cheaper using their intellectual property or ideas is a bit sad. As for the whole argument that J@ raised about being able to make something at home for $50, consider buying a steak meal at the local pub. Cost of food on that plate would be about $7 and you're paying $30+ for it. Is that wrong and unreasonable? Staff costs and overheads of a real physical full time business will typically add 60% to the cost of goods before it can be sold at a break-even point. Don't take this as having a chop - just some honest advice. Many have had the same gripe in the past, nobody has succeeded in making it work. If you want a classic case study then read the thread title for a hint on somebody that has tried (and failed spectacularly) at delivering something good, cheap & quick. And also find a decent courier company. Whoever this bloke uses are absolutely fcking useless, I'm starting to think they are actually opening packages now and swapping parts out just for shts and giggles. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MA91CK billet turbos and weathered engines dont mix Donating Members 1,346 Member For: 12y 6m 23d Gender: Male Location: Wollongong Posted 10/06/14 11:47 PM Share Posted 10/06/14 11:47 PM You're exactly right and you can bet your bottom dollar that he has gone for maximum profit/minimum outlay.I don't think a lot of people understand just how much time and effort goes into parts like this. Even a muffler delete.What width is the pipe?What angle does it need to be?How long?Width of silicon joiners?Who is going to paint it?What hose clamps to use?That's just for 'a bit of pipe and a joiner'It's not easy and I have quickly worked out there is a lot of time and effort involved in all these parts.I'm making mine from scratch, so I can truly call them my product. Will be similar to others, but that's because it's probably the best design already so there's not much you can improve on, apart from parts and finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never had any say Panda I <3 Floods Silver Donating Members 11,198 Member For: 13y 4m 14d Gender: Male Location: South West QLD Posted 10/06/14 11:54 PM Share Posted 10/06/14 11:54 PM Just remember.. Everything is cheaper in bulk.. Powdercoating/Purchasing/Tooling.. Will always be cheaper the more you get done at one time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandblightfoot Member 183 Member For: 11y 11m 12d Gender: Male Location: Gold Coast Posted 10/06/14 11:57 PM Share Posted 10/06/14 11:57 PM I do agree I made my turbo side intake for $200 including powder coating but I did have a massive workshop with top of the range equipment and 10 years in the trade to help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arronm Dropping a turd Gold Donating Members 9,520 Member For: 17y 1m 18d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 10/06/14 11:59 PM Share Posted 10/06/14 11:59 PM MA91CK, just copy everyone else's stuff.Works for Plazmaman. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MA91CK billet turbos and weathered engines dont mix Donating Members 1,346 Member For: 12y 6m 23d Gender: Male Location: Wollongong Posted 11/06/14 12:02 AM Share Posted 11/06/14 12:02 AM Sure is^The aim initially is to provide a product that is Australian made/affordable/quality.Hard to nail, but I'm confident. This is still a curiosity business adventure.. I'm still full time with the railways and am trying to also kickstart an elec/data business.Not doing things in halves haha... Gunna be a busy boy but that's how I like it.Anyways.. We are trolling this thread pretty hard and I'm definitely pushing my boundaries with the whole advertising/selling side of it.More will be revealed soon. Hopefully OP gets his piping sorted MA91CK, just copy everyone else's stuff.Works for Plazmaman.I don't wana be that guy, I'm making mine from scratch so I can say I didn't copy anyone, it'll be my product and if someone says I copied they can shove it fair up their you know what.That intake looks good ^^ I don't think like will be 200, but it won't be 1000 either. Using stainless screws, rivnuts, clamps, k and n filters and good silicon all adds up, but like you said it can be done fairly cheaply if you have the skills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 18y 6m 17d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 11/06/14 12:57 AM Share Posted 11/06/14 12:57 AM how many hours did the air box take to do, from start to finish, including any measuring etc to the final product? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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