Reviews Of Kpm 1000Hp Intank

[KPM Motorsport]

Bosch 044 pumps are quoted by Bosch as being only to be used for 500 hours or less on E85 solely. This has been proven to be reasonably accurate on all pumps we have used. The brushes and commutators wear after this period as E85 only for long priods is extremely aggressive.

Using Flex fuel ( alternating periods of Petrol and then periods of E85 ) ,or Petrol only allows for a 100% pump reliability.

In short fuel hoses are no problem on E85.

Fuel pumps are rated by manufactures as 500 hours on E85.

[MattyP]

Thanks for clarifying that dave

[Bizkets is Drunk?]

You can always throw one in my car and ill test it for you to prove people wrong;)

[Mrs Jeturbo]

Bizkets there's several people in sa that put their hand up for that and they're engines didn't fair so well after the pumps stopped working and ran the car lean as causing permanent damage ...

Brand new engines basically destroyed ... And not just once either ...

But I don't want any warning points so I'll stop there lol

Edited 20/05/14 07:47 AM by Princess Fluffy

[JETURBO]

  On 20/05/2014 at 6:27 AM, that said:

I dunno about that jet

ive got it and ive taken it to the drags and an unofficial track and havent had a single problem...

You have your outlook first hand

We have had ours, coupled with a bunch of fault finding and removing pumps for "exchange" then reimbursement, I also believe others across Australia had "issues"

What we very rarely see is "issues" with the trusty 044 on nearly any kind of fuel, for massive durations over years and years, I even have pushed a single 044 to what most would say is stupid power for a huge amount of kms

I know things have "trial" periods and "testing" phases but when a product gets advertised as a e85 pump with claims of said supportive power and ZERO about "time limits" its a bit much especially at the dollar figure said item is/was

A good bloke rob herrod has a intank system and he does not recommend it for e85 even if this does lose "potential" customers but honesty and hard facts has him sleeping well at night when he sells his products

Quality control should not be the customer to work out for a company and this is where things go pear shaped.

Again bosch may put a hr limit on their pumps but the time has already been done on the trusty 044 and as the most popular aftermarket electric fuel pump world wide it certainly has proven to be the goods... That good infact its the most "copied" pump on the market and this is where issues can arise

If u want any more of my personal opinion on this item I have bulk videos,pictures,data and facts but I wont sledge this product but provide my experience based on e85 use from the time of use/purchase

I further push the use of external surge tanks as they have done the hard yards and at the end of the day the proof is in the pudding

[Never had any say Panda]

I find this most interesting and thanks to KPM and Jet for clarifying..

So would the extended life of the 044 be attributed to the fact that many materials don't fair too well submerged in E85? Including the pumps it seems?

What is the weakest link that causes them to 'crap themselves' (as jet describes it)? Or is it just general wear of the entire pump unit?

And what would be different between these pumps and the likes that say Expensive Daewoo are putting into their E85 xompatible vehicles? Because is damn sure want more than 500 hours before my intank pump crapped itself on a new car?

[IH8TOADS]

I have to side with KPM on this as I wouldn't be using brush style pumps (e.g. 044's) for extended periods on e85. They're simply not fit for purpose.

Edited 20/05/14 08:53 AM by IH8TOADS

[JETURBO]

Toads I hold you in very high regard but I think ull find it hard ( not impossible )to find a more suitable pump for "general" or specific e85 duties considering the most subjected pump ( bosch 044 ) to e85 and the years/kms/hrs already done by it

When u weigh up $$$ - time - failures the 044 rises to the top

Please don't think its the best pump as iam not saying that but some of these "newer" style/brands have just not had the time/kms/hrs subjected to them yet.

I know of some cracking pumps but as a very "general" rule the old surge tank with the 044 has the rungs on the board

And no one can deny this !!!!

[turbotrana]

A well designed intank is the way to go IMO. The problem with the current surges on the market is that you are constantly circulating the same fuel into a small tank and you just boil the fuel.

If you had the fuel going back to the tank then had a primary pump/s that could keep up with the secondary pump/s then I wouldn't argue with that, but having the return plumbed into the surge tank is the wrong way to do it.

[gaz097]

Is it possible to tee the rail return into the return to the tank using a external setup with twin 044's? Will help in circulating fuel but will it hurt back pressure? How big of an intank would u need?

Edited 20/05/14 01:19 PM by gaz097