Understeer Vs Oversteer Tradeoffs

[sexual harrassment panda]

does it understeer going into the corner, mid corner or on corner exit?

but agree that the front needs to be softer or the rear made to be harder but will vary according to which part of the corner is your problem.

Driving style can also influence understeer

mid corner.

It's pretty neutral on entry and oversteers a bit on corner exit

Most of this is probably my driving style - need to do a few more track days to practice corner entry.

I have tried to stiffen up the rear - the ssl HD kings were a recent addition and have helped a lot.

Went for a spirited drive today over a gravel range and a few logging tracks, handles perfectly with the right foot. On bitumen,when the back wheels have traction it really pushes wide

[ratter]

if you had adjustable shocks you could give it a little more rebound damping on the front or stiffen the compression damping on the rear to slow the weight transfer from front to rear but you don't, so soften the front buy using smaller sway bar or stiffen rear by heavier sway bar, or just change tyres as others have mentioned

[Ralph Wiggum]

Another point to look at SHP is how freely the bar moves in the bushes. It should move quite freely if it doesn't it will add the the front spring rate.

I found with the 31mm front bar I had to space the mounting saddles with some small washers to allow the bar to slowly drop under its own wieght. Prior to this the bar was very stiff to move and made the front end feel very unsettled.

[sexual harrassment panda]

Thanks for that, I might try to source a stock sway bay for a test run.

will try 245/445 all round as well,

[nelsonian101]

In theory, a smaller rear sway bar with increase under steer. (decrease oversteer.)

I have a lot of experience setting up bikes/cars for circuit work too.

Trust me, just piss those front Invo's off and put on some fresh R1R's or AD0R's at the front.

Problem solved.

Edited 19/04/14 11:54 PM by nelsonian101

[arronm]

We are suggesting a smaller front bar

[Lennox]

Stoked I didn't listen to all the bullsh*t from whiteline saying a bigger front sway bar is the best dollar for dollar handling improvement then!! Nearly bought one

[sexual harrassment panda]

I thought it was a massive improvement in handling for me when going through S bends. I think it might have a different effect for tight corners and parking.

[senna_T]

In addition to the other suggestions I would go for a set of Bilstein shocks to compliment the higher spring rates. Monroes are generally a little on the comfy side which is great for touring however they can leave a fair bit of pitch when the going gets tough.

Next time you throw it in to a corner see if you can notice if the suspension pitches more than once as you change direction - this will tell you if the tyre is becoming unloaded and adding to the understeer