GeGe6 Donating Members 1,978 Member For: 12y 5m 9d Gender: Male Location: Perth, SOR Posted 21/03/14 11:35 PM Share Posted 21/03/14 11:35 PM Why don't you get cat welded in and while having that done get mufflers removed. Have flanges put in so you can put them back if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 18y 6m 19d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 22/03/14 02:07 AM Share Posted 22/03/14 02:07 AM please read "performance exhaust" in my section 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTR_NITRO_FG Donating Members 3,214 Member For: 11y 6m 20d Gender: Male Location: NOR Perth Posted 22/03/14 05:16 AM Author Share Posted 22/03/14 05:16 AM Cant find it Mick? I tried searching threads you started but couldn't find?If you have a link you can easily post I would happily read...but if you're too busy I understand!I think I understand the concept a bit better now with the explanation from SteveR and others...That gives you these numbers assuming I didn't make a typo in the calculator:3" exhaust3.14 x 1.5 x 1.5=7.065 square inchesStock system - 2x2.25"2x 3.14 x 1.125 x 1.125=7.948125 square inches2x 2.5"2x 3.14 x 1.25 x 1.259.81 square inches4"3.14 x 2 x 2=12.56 square inches2x3"2x 3.14 x (1.5x1.5)14.13 square inches...it could be pointed out that twin pipes have more internal surfaces even for identical overall flow thus more friction and lower performance but from what I've gathered it is not that big of a deal at our level of air flow. Also assuming the pipes are mandrel bent (smooth internal corners of same diameter as straight sections)...cheapies might be a straight pipe just bent to shape which makes nice creases inside and hurts flow. Like blowing through a straw you folded instead of using a proper bendy elbow one With suitable twin cats a twin 2.5" system will be good for 400rwkw but will be holding things back at this stage a little. The dump and cats are just as important as exhaust if you are chasing performance increases.This is exactly the explanation I was looking for!!! Thanks Steve! I think I remember seeing this in the twin 2.5 vs single 3.5" thread (but completely forgot about it until you posted this lol)Thanks for taking the time to explain it all! Knowing my stingy ass ... I will prob just stick to single 3.5" xforce catback and hopefully it will meet up perfectly with my euro4 catpipe (with balistic cat welded in already)!Cheers ....thanks everyone from saving me from wasting unnecessary money on a terrible idea hahahaIm running an advanced headers dump and cat , it does sit lower than standard .For me personally I can't see much point in upgrading my cat back exhaust while I still have the standard fg turbo. Im not really interested in making a heap of noise and going slow lol.Advance headers hey...interesting...always thought that was just an ebay brand or something. ..cant even say its a cheapo brand cause I think its more expensive than xforce gear lolAnd yeah I guess I see where you are coming from with the loud exhaust without the power to back it up...but still a little bit of noise is more fun...for me anyways Why don't you get cat welded in and while having that done get mufflers removed. Have flanges put in so you can put them back if needed.Already have my spare euro 4 cat pipe with balistic cat welded in...plus its been lengthened to suit xforce 3.5" catback (apparently anyways...I haven't double checked yet...but I'm sure the guy I bought it off isn't lying) lolAnd yeah good idea about having flanges done so could return to stock...but I feel like I will hate it (like most people do)...maybe it will drone as well and therefore a waste of a couple hundred bux (eastern states people have been saying <$100 for muffler removal mod...but the 4 exhaust shops I've tried have quoted $200+ and warned me that most customers come back a week later to change it cause they hate the sound)....and that money could go towards the proper catback (if I even require it after my first tune)....but I will discuss this with my tuner when the time comes!cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeGe6 Donating Members 1,978 Member For: 12y 5m 9d Gender: Male Location: Perth, SOR Posted 22/03/14 05:41 AM Share Posted 22/03/14 05:41 AM Yes that's right, you get what you pay for in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 18y 6m 19d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 22/03/14 10:04 AM Share Posted 22/03/14 10:04 AM for some reason I can not post links, or pics or smileys, but it is in my sponsor section but possibly 4 or 5 pages downdo an advanced search, type in Performance Exhaust, type author as ratter and then tick search titles only, it worked for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LU82 Bronze Donating Members 569 Member For: 11y 10m 21d Posted 22/03/14 11:11 AM Share Posted 22/03/14 11:11 AM Advance headers hey...interesting...always thought that was just an ebay brand or something. ..cant even say its a cheapo brand cause I think its more expensive than xforce gear lolAnd yeah I guess I see where you are coming from with the loud exhaust without the power to back it up...but still a little bit of noise is more fun...for me anyways Apparently they are made in Australia that's why they are more expensive . Seems to do the job my car runs ok numbers at the track so im happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,323 Member For: 19y 2m 23d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 22/03/14 12:47 PM Share Posted 22/03/14 12:47 PM I run an advance Headers dump. Can't fault it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTR_NITRO_FG Donating Members 3,214 Member For: 11y 6m 20d Gender: Male Location: NOR Perth Posted 22/03/14 01:17 PM Author Share Posted 22/03/14 01:17 PM do an advanced search, type in Performance Exhaust, type author as ratter and then tick search titles only, it worked for meThanks Mick! I found it....I will give it a read now And thanks for the tips LU82 and Wiggum!Might be something for me to consider later on down the track!Cheers for the input everyone! Much appreciated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LU82 Bronze Donating Members 569 Member For: 11y 10m 21d Posted 22/03/14 03:03 PM Share Posted 22/03/14 03:03 PM So the moral of the story is that a but plug would be more useful than a 3inch exhaust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XtRmn8 570Nm @1800rpm Donating Members 2,441 Member For: 21y 2m 24d Gender: Male Location: Perth, WA Posted 22/03/14 03:19 PM Share Posted 22/03/14 03:19 PM So the moral of the story is that a but plug would be more useful than a 3inch exhaust. I run an advance Headers dump. Can't fault it.I think moral of the story is that nothing beats a good dump. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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