RIP85 REST IN PEACE V8 Donating Members 469 Member For: 16y 11m 22d Gender: Male Location: Woodridge on the park bench Posted 22/01/14 11:31 AM Share Posted 22/01/14 11:31 AM Just out of curiosity who has run a external gate off there exhaust housing on a gtx35/82 and lost power compared to the internal gate been told this is a common issue 1 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/87345-loss-of-power-with-external-gate/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScatterBrain Donating Members 316 Member For: 15y 10m 10d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 22/01/14 12:19 PM Share Posted 22/01/14 12:19 PM It depends where the gate is plumbed into the housing, The further around the housing the worse it gets. I've seen a loss of 30kw on a car just from the gate position. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/87345-loss-of-power-with-external-gate/#findComment-1451517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP85 REST IN PEACE V8 Donating Members 469 Member For: 16y 11m 22d Gender: Male Location: Woodridge on the park bench Posted 22/01/14 10:21 PM Author Share Posted 22/01/14 10:21 PM <br />Yeah exactly my car is down 30 rwkw <br /> 1 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/87345-loss-of-power-with-external-gate/#findComment-1451546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
senna_T Forged Member Lifetime Members 15,818 Member For: 18y 2m 5d Gender: Male Location: SW Sydney Posted 22/01/14 10:42 PM Share Posted 22/01/14 10:42 PM Yeah, that's why... Where the flange has been placed is no good for exhaust flow, that is asking the exhaust to build up in the rear housing and then do a 90 degree turn back against itself to get out to the gate. It really needs to be flowing in the same direction as the exhaust gases so when the gate opens there is a smooth gas flow back in to the exhaust 1 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/87345-loss-of-power-with-external-gate/#findComment-1451548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP85 REST IN PEACE V8 Donating Members 469 Member For: 16y 11m 22d Gender: Male Location: Woodridge on the park bench Posted 23/01/14 02:38 AM Author Share Posted 23/01/14 02:38 AM 30rwkw down on 6 psi more boost I'll just get tuner to smash more boost very expensive exercise to make less power 3 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/87345-loss-of-power-with-external-gate/#findComment-1451580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP85 REST IN PEACE V8 Donating Members 469 Member For: 16y 11m 22d Gender: Male Location: Woodridge on the park bench Posted 23/01/14 02:56 AM Author Share Posted 23/01/14 02:56 AM On 22/01/2014 at 10:42 PM, senna_T said: Yeah, that's why... Where the flange has been placed is no good for exhaust flow, that is asking the exhaust to build up in the rear housing and then do a 90 degree turn back against itself to get out to the gate. <br /> <br />It really needs to be flowing in the same direction as the exhaust gases so when the gate opens there is a smooth gas flow back in to the exhaust<br />It is on a low mount 6 boost manifold so turbo is mounted upside down 1 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/87345-loss-of-power-with-external-gate/#findComment-1451583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
senna_T Forged Member Lifetime Members 15,818 Member For: 18y 2m 5d Gender: Male Location: SW Sydney Posted 23/01/14 03:15 AM Share Posted 23/01/14 03:15 AM Yeah but imagine the way the exhaust gas flows, to have the flange at a right angle like that means that it's going to come from the manifold and start following the rear housing around to the turbine but before it gets there it is running in to a wall half way around. I'll try to find a photo of what I think it should be. 2 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/87345-loss-of-power-with-external-gate/#findComment-1451586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP85 REST IN PEACE V8 Donating Members 469 Member For: 16y 11m 22d Gender: Male Location: Woodridge on the park bench Posted 23/01/14 03:20 AM Author Share Posted 23/01/14 03:20 AM Yeah I understand what your saying in the years of modding cars I just have had them off the manifold and never had a problem thanks for your help just bit pissed I went on some wrong advise 1 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/87345-loss-of-power-with-external-gate/#findComment-1451587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
senna_T Forged Member Lifetime Members 15,818 Member For: 18y 2m 5d Gender: Male Location: SW Sydney Posted 23/01/14 03:31 AM Share Posted 23/01/14 03:31 AM This is kind of what I'm talking about, see how the pipe has been cut to flow the gas straight from the flange at the merge collector? 3 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/87345-loss-of-power-with-external-gate/#findComment-1451588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
senna_T Forged Member Lifetime Members 15,818 Member For: 18y 2m 5d Gender: Male Location: SW Sydney Posted 23/01/14 03:32 AM Share Posted 23/01/14 03:32 AM Pain in the ass I know, but if you can get a new rear housing and have this done I think you would see the benefits of holding solid boost curves with the external gate Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/87345-loss-of-power-with-external-gate/#findComment-1451589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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