Never had any say Panda I <3 Floods Silver Donating Members 11,198 Member For: 13y 2m 24d Gender: Male Location: South West QLD Posted 05/12/13 12:59 AM Share Posted 05/12/13 12:59 AM No one is able to prove he kept limiter bashing your car which caused a rod to let go.. As so many have said.. He could have just been goingfor a rather normal drive to see if the issue started to present itself.. While I'm sorry for your situation.. I've been in and around business for long enough to know that there is always three sides to a story.. Customers Businesses And what actually happened.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pazzo Donating Members 11,132 Member For: 14y 3d Gender: Male Posted 05/12/13 01:16 AM Share Posted 05/12/13 01:16 AM I understand that SDP.... But the mechanic was in over his head by the looks of it... And did not believe the error codes...yes OP should have taking it to a expert in these cars. If the code suggested it was waste gate and he did not check it he has a bit of fault with it...As op said, he did not boot it once found out it overboosted...think its s 50-50 take the blame here... OP going to a mechanic who does not understand these cars.... And mechanic who did not believe error code and brushed it off.....if that's what really happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Here since the start... Lifetime Members 10,282 Member For: 21y 5m 29d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 05/12/13 01:39 AM Share Posted 05/12/13 01:39 AM Does the PCM have an up to date calibration in it? BA's had an overboost issue early on in their life which was due to a calibration error. Ford released an update which fixed the problem. It's possible your car never had the update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeze_dk I am dissatisfied with my current employment situation Donating Members 8,610 Member For: 18y 27d Gender: Male Posted 05/12/13 01:45 AM Share Posted 05/12/13 01:45 AM Hmm not sure I'll name names just yet. They might be cool about it. They've always looked after me hence why I kept going back to them. Mechanic has been "testing" everything he can think off before checking the electrics like the ECU. I kinda think that's the first thing he should of checked. He had it nearly a week.I've been told by a lawyer friend to try and resolve it with the mechanic first and if I'm not happy with that to take it to the Department of Consumer Protection to try and resolve it. Ok the scenario in which the mechanic blew up my engine is as follows:- Mechanic spends nearly a week testing, overboosting and scratching his head about the problem. Tests/replaces every mechanical little part he can think of.- He told me the computer errors where telling him it was a wastegate problem but he didn't believe the errors. So he ignores the errors and refuses to look at the wastegate.- Finally yesterday he was taking it to an EFI guy to look at the electronics of the car and he gave it a boot "to see if the problem was still there" and the engine blew up.Note: I had to call them every single day to find out what was happening with my car. Even when they blew it up they didn't call me. They waited all day until I called them at 5:30pm to tell me.Does this really sound like it's my fault?So if a mechanic is in over his head and has no idea how to fix a problem he can keep testing and overboosting until the engine blows up?I don't understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJW1978 Member 28 Member For: 17y 4m 6d Location: Perth, WA Posted 05/12/13 02:57 AM Author Share Posted 05/12/13 02:57 AM Thanks for all the replys.I've talked to the mechanic this morning and he's agreed to make a claim through his insurance. If it gets picked up he'll have a $1000 excess which he's agreed to cover. If it doesn't get picked up then we'll work through the issue together and come up with a solution.I'm a reasonable person but don't feel like I should be wearing all of the costs. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never had any say Panda I <3 Floods Silver Donating Members 11,198 Member For: 13y 2m 24d Gender: Male Location: South West QLD Posted 05/12/13 03:32 AM Share Posted 05/12/13 03:32 AM That's a better outcome than most of would have expected.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamIan69 Bronze Donating Members 401 Member For: 11y 6m 4d Gender: Male Location: WA Posted 05/12/13 03:50 AM Share Posted 05/12/13 03:50 AM Over boost problem. I would do the following (I am not a tuner) Check map sensor plug Check hose too waste gate and valve. Test pneumatic "normally closed" valve before wastegate-(common problem) ""Connect a computer to the obd2 port and watch boost increase on the screen as you drive"" Connect a pressure gauge to manifold to verify what the obd2 port is telling you. Check flapper valve is not seized and that it can open "fully". Pressure test waste gate diaphragm and connecting hoses at turbo, ensure waste gate operates correctly with flapper valve still attached to actuator rod. Blow workshop air backward through barbed fitting on turbo. The way I see it, there "will" be a fault at one of those points. How can he spend a week diagnosing this? Even if there was other cars in the workshop. Are you sure it was the intake manifold gasket he replaced and not the exhaust manifold gasket? "If" he removed the turbo then he may have not put the clip on that holds the rod on the flapper or he may have bent the waste gate rod trying to remove it from the flapper. I would immediately pull the car out of his workshop and send it to a I dependent "tuner" so he can't cover up anything that he "may" of wrecked. Other side of the story is that it could have had a damaged rod when it went into his shop and the bloke is innocent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xr6thsveta Donating Members 100 Member For: 12y 5m 21d Gender: Male Location: Palmerston North. New Zealand Posted 05/12/13 03:53 AM Share Posted 05/12/13 03:53 AM Is it the same mechanic that replaced the manifold gasket who blew the engine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
az6 turbo Member 38 Member For: 12y 9m 23d Gender: Male Location: shellharbour Posted 05/12/13 05:27 AM Share Posted 05/12/13 05:27 AM Just remember once your motor is fixed your still going to have an overboost problem! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJW1978 Member 28 Member For: 17y 4m 6d Location: Perth, WA Posted 05/12/13 07:08 AM Author Share Posted 05/12/13 07:08 AM Is it the same mechanic that replaced the manifold gasket who blew the engine?yeah same guy.to be honest, whilst I'm pissed at the situation the guy is being pretty open about the situation. at this stage I'd be happy if his insurance company wrote the car off and I got a pay out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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