Peter_M Member 31 Member For: 13y 7m 20d Posted 01/10/13 09:11 AM Share Posted 01/10/13 09:11 AM Hey All,I have been looking around to get my 03 BA XR6T car tuned.. It was tuned at a well known performance workshop before I bought it, but realized I didn't receive a 'flash tuner box' with it. I called the workshop and they told me that they rarely work with 'flash box's' and that they dyno tune it straight to the car.So my question is, (sorry if this sounds very stupid) but is it possible to tune a xr6t without these 'sct flash tuners'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETURBO ...JD TUNING ADELAIDE... Gold Donating Members 23,708 Member For: 16y 7m 4d Gender: Male Location: Adelaide Posted 01/10/13 09:20 AM Share Posted 01/10/13 09:20 AM Yes u can tune direct to ecu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_M Member 31 Member For: 13y 7m 20d Posted 01/10/13 09:28 AM Author Share Posted 01/10/13 09:28 AM Why is it so much more common for people to use flash boxes for edits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETURBO ...JD TUNING ADELAIDE... Gold Donating Members 23,708 Member For: 16y 7m 4d Gender: Male Location: Adelaide Posted 01/10/13 09:45 AM Share Posted 01/10/13 09:45 AM Long story but most common tuning software requires the flash x3 device using the sct software that's why, but a more than capable tuner can gain same results off other software that will edit the ecu direct and save u the coin on the x3 device Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wenier Donating Members 1,736 Member For: 14y 11m 17d Gender: Male Location: Christchurch, New Zealand Posted 01/10/13 09:59 AM Share Posted 01/10/13 09:59 AM Because currently the flash box can do more than the direct to ecu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETURBO ...JD TUNING ADELAIDE... Gold Donating Members 23,708 Member For: 16y 7m 4d Gender: Male Location: Adelaide Posted 01/10/13 10:25 AM Share Posted 01/10/13 10:25 AM Correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeze_dk I am dissatisfied with my current employment situation Donating Members 8,610 Member For: 18y 3m 7d Gender: Male Posted 01/10/13 03:06 PM Share Posted 01/10/13 03:06 PM Heaps of reasons. Box can tune zf gearbox, hold multiple tunes, can go any tuner, can read and clear fault codes.Ecu tune has one tune only and can only be retuned by the tuner that it was taken to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pazzo Donating Members 11,132 Member For: 14y 2m 13d Gender: Male Posted 01/10/13 08:10 PM Share Posted 01/10/13 08:10 PM What state are you in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidxr6t skids Donating Members 2,754 Member For: 12y 7d Gender: Not Telling Posted 02/10/13 06:07 AM Share Posted 02/10/13 06:07 AM (edited) Personally I don't see why we aren't given the option to have a laptop that loads the tunes onto the car.bring own laptop that's of reasonable spec to tuner, they install software on laptop and interface with car, and sell you the interface so you can load from some preset tunes. I appreciate the convenience of a little black box and intend to have a xcal3 at some stage but it'd surely be nice if you didnt have to spend $500-700 on this device. Edited 02/10/13 06:09 AM by johnxr6t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,323 Member For: 19y 3m 12d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 02/10/13 06:38 AM Share Posted 02/10/13 06:38 AM Heaps of reasons. Box can tune zf gearbox, hold multiple tunes, can go any tuner, can read and clear fault codes.Ecu tune has one tune only and can only be retuned by the tuner that it was taken to.Incorrect Ecu tune can be tuned by any tuner with the device/software. A license fee will apply (aprox $100), in this regard SCT is less flexible than HPT.EDIT:A question I would like to pose to the wider audience, has ZF tuning provided a noticeable impact since it was introduced?This is not a loaded question Im keen to hear people's thoughts. From the outside looking in it appears we have prolonged the life of the box (too a point) but lost some of the main benefits of the ZF? (ie drivabilty/shift smoothness etc etc)kgo: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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