JETURBO ...JD TUNING ADELAIDE... Gold Donating Members 23,708 Member For: 16y 7m 20d Gender: Male Location: Adelaide Posted 03/09/13 01:03 AM Share Posted 03/09/13 01:03 AM Paying for diagnostics is a pet hate of mine but I learnt the hard way many years ago Now I totally accept it, but a good mech should 9/10 be able to get to the bottom of issues in a fair amount of time, some just take the piss and use your money replacing stuff until its fixed That I cant stand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 18y 7m 24d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 03/09/13 01:29 AM Share Posted 03/09/13 01:29 AM I have a mate that teaches advanced automotive, he has a saying that I agree with "test, don't guess" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never had any say Panda I <3 Floods Silver Donating Members 11,198 Member For: 13y 5m 19d Gender: Male Location: South West QLD Posted 03/09/13 01:31 AM Share Posted 03/09/13 01:31 AM (edited) Haha love it Ratter.. It's so true.. The bloke I was talking about was getting a code that represented the number 7 coil pack.. Expensive Daewoo wanted to replace them all.. When he asked them to swap a couple packs around and see if the code changed to another cylinder they said, nah because if ones going the rest will go soon..That's about when he changed mechanics..Turned out to be an ECU fault and he needed a replacement computer. Edited 03/09/13 01:32 AM by Slightly Depressed Panda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 18y 7m 24d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 03/09/13 02:06 AM Share Posted 03/09/13 02:06 AM that's a good example of why correct diagnosis is needed, but to be honest if I had a car with 1 faulty coil, I would be recommending all to be replaced as well, assuming it was a definite coil issue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,323 Member For: 19y 3m 28d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 03/09/13 02:37 AM Share Posted 03/09/13 02:37 AM Parts bin diagnosis ftmfw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamIan69 Bronze Donating Members 401 Member For: 11y 8m 30d Gender: Male Location: WA Posted 03/09/13 03:38 AM Share Posted 03/09/13 03:38 AM most cheap scan tools/code readers will only read generic OBD2 codes and not manufacturer codes, I have seen many cars that the owners say there are no codes and yet when we plug our scan tool into the car there are codesAgreed, even a snap on diagnostic tool will miss codes on some cars.There is a lot if crap tools, but I use a "CReader" diagnostic tool and I am able to diagnose every problem I have found "so far". I recommend them to every tuner and car owner as they are small and so easy to use. And for $90-$140 it is worth around an hour of labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never had any say Panda I <3 Floods Silver Donating Members 11,198 Member For: 13y 5m 19d Gender: Male Location: South West QLD Posted 03/09/13 03:44 AM Share Posted 03/09/13 03:44 AM (edited) I know this probably isn't the place to discuss it but I'll ask it anyway.I have a fairly cheap generic scan tool, when I had it it worked on the FG XR6T and it worked on a mates VE SS.. It didn't work on my wife's old Barina.. Or at least it couldn't recognise the codes associated with the faults it was having.However it doesn't show anything more than the code. So when you get the code you then turn to google to figure out what the code is.So:1. Are the codes universal among most modern cars2. Can you get scan tools that at least give you a description with the code for under $200?Edit: I should add that I have no real use for one at this point but I'm just curious.. Edited 03/09/13 03:44 AM by Slightly Depressed Panda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jas98 Member 1,046 Member For: 12y 5m 28d Gender: Male Location: Maryborough Qld Posted 03/09/13 05:20 AM Share Posted 03/09/13 05:20 AM most cheap scan tools/code readers will only read generic OBD2 codes and not manufacturer codes, I have seen many cars that the owners say there are no codes and yet when we plug our scan tool into the car there are codesyeah this is true, as my BA xr6t was overboosting and I never had a code when I read it with a number of the cheaper scanners but ford picked it up and a few other codes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jas98 Member 1,046 Member For: 12y 5m 28d Gender: Male Location: Maryborough Qld Posted 03/09/13 05:20 AM Share Posted 03/09/13 05:20 AM most cheap scan tools/code readers will only read generic OBD2 codes and not manufacturer codes, I have seen many cars that the owners say there are no codes and yet when we plug our scan tool into the car there are codesyeah this is true, as my BA xr6t was overboosting and I never had a code when I read it with a number of the cheaper scanners but ford picked it up and a few other codes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamIan69 Bronze Donating Members 401 Member For: 11y 8m 30d Gender: Male Location: WA Posted 03/09/13 06:02 AM Share Posted 03/09/13 06:02 AM (edited) The CReader reads fuel pressure, boost pressure, vacuum, oil pressure, oil temps, coolant temps an heaps of other stuff. It gives you fault codes and a description. It won't read cars before 2004, as they were before the new legislation saying that all cars must have the same OBD2. Edited 03/09/13 06:04 AM by AdamIan69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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