k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 29,042 Member For: 16y 8m 10d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 27/10/14 03:22 AM Share Posted 27/10/14 03:22 AM Do you have any idea what I spend my money on? No. So your opinion on what I might spend my money on is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Sucker Moderating Team 32,303 Member For: 20y 7m 25d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 27/10/14 04:11 AM Share Posted 27/10/14 04:11 AM Value is a very subjective thing. To me I value comfort, performance & handling over anything else when comparing the two. I've had the displeasure of driving a VF for an extended period and couldn't wait to get out of the fckn thing. Over complicated dash with an unresponsive slow clumsy interface, buttons and switches in places that don't make sense, massive pillars that necessitate to need for blind spot warnings and self-parking because you can't actually see your surroundings, and a stupid parkbrake that is more of a hindrance than anything because it's not obvious when it's set like the presence of an actual lever operated brake (procedure is engage transmission and hit the go pedal, car won't move realise handbrake is still on, press handbrake button, get warning on dash that you can't turn the handbrake off without your foot on the brake pedal, foot on brake, press handbrake button again, curse the wonderful technology, drive off after waiting a bit longer as you've now missed the gap in traffic ) Yeah it has heaps of cool boy-racer inspired gadgets but I'll pass and would actively avoid a Falcon if the followed the same path. The thing is on the drive to work today I didn't go over 2500 rpm once. Couldn't traffic. Most of the time we just sit in our cars and commute. And I know which one I would rather be sitting in A Prius? I'm guessing there's a point in there somewhere but I can't really see it. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberley Scott www.australianflag.org.au Donating Members 6,763 Member For: 19y 5m 3d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 27/10/14 04:16 AM Share Posted 27/10/14 04:16 AM In early 2016 I'm searching for a new lease car up to 55 k. As much as the XR8 is appealing (may not be available then), even if it wasn't I'm in the boat were the last Ford is just not good enough to purchase as an all round package. As much as being a Ford Fan I hate hate Holdens, I can understand why people are buying them. As for computers replacing skills. You have a point. But market forces rule. As long as you can always buy a good power to weight rear wheel drive vehicle in a manual I'm happy. When that's not the case I will despair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masda74 To Loud Gold Donating Members 4,112 Member For: 13y 20d Gender: Male Location: WA, Perth Posted 27/10/14 04:21 AM Share Posted 27/10/14 04:21 AM Kimbo, what is your list of rear wheel drive vehicles that may be on your list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobylee Member 120 Member For: 11y 4m 8d Posted 27/10/14 04:24 AM Share Posted 27/10/14 04:24 AM Panda - that's exactly what I did when I sold my VX. In my price range was the XR6 or the SS. XR6 was better value for money. If I had to do the same between a FGX or a VF, I still think I would easily choose the FGX. The experience a guy had thundering his "worlds fastest 4 dr sedan" down the 1/4 mile for a blistering fast mid 14 sec pass is where it's at. Or hammering a GTR-XU1 around Bathurst driving it right up to the threshold of disaster, knowing that I do not have a bunch of digital safety devices to control my car in the event of making a mistake. It's raw, and it leaves the onus, mostly, on driver error. This is prob all a moot argument though. It won't be long until we drive our cars via apps on our smart phones, and then the argument can change from "Expensive Daewoo or ford" to "apple or android"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenDoCo I'm getten too old for this s**t Bronze Donating Members 4,509 Member For: 11y 8m 13d Gender: Male Location: A big bridge over a river in South Australia Posted 27/10/14 04:38 AM Share Posted 27/10/14 04:38 AM Well of course it will be Android.I mean, logically we would have to use something 'technology advanced' before something 'fruity'..........wouldn't we? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arronm Dropping a turd Gold Donating Members 9,520 Member For: 17y 1m 23d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 27/10/14 04:40 AM Share Posted 27/10/14 04:40 AM Value is a very subjective thing. To me I value comfort, performance & handling over anything else when comparing the two.I've had the displeasure of driving a VF for an extended period and couldn't wait to get out of the fckn thing. Over complicated dash with an unresponsive slow clumsy interface, buttons and switches in places that don't make sense, massive pillars that necessitate to need for blind spot warnings and self-parking because you can't actually see your surroundings, and a stupid parkbrake that is more of a hindrance than anything because it's not obvious when it's set like the presence of an actual lever operated brake (procedure is engage transmission and hit the go pedal, car won't move realise handbrake is still on, press handbrake button, get warning on dash that you can't turn the handbrake off without your foot on the brake pedal, foot on brake, press handbrake button again, curse the wonderful technology, drive off after waiting a bit longer as you've now missed the gap in traffic )Yeah it has heaps of cool boy-racer inspired gadgets but I'll pass and would actively avoid a Falcon if the followed the same path. A Prius?I'm guessing there's a point in there somewhere but I can't really see it.Tab. You have it wrong on so many levels but let's just leave it there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobylee Member 120 Member For: 11y 4m 8d Posted 27/10/14 04:40 AM Share Posted 27/10/14 04:40 AM Well of course it will be Android.I mean, logically we would have to use something 'technology advanced' before something 'fruity'..........wouldn't we?Na def not android! Too many features on those phones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Sucker Moderating Team 32,303 Member For: 20y 7m 25d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 27/10/14 04:42 AM Share Posted 27/10/14 04:42 AM My opinion and judgment is wrong because you don't agree? Sorry I'll just sit back and let you girls slur a product for no reason other than what is obviously confirmation bias without any real substance to your argument. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arronm Dropping a turd Gold Donating Members 9,520 Member For: 17y 1m 23d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 27/10/14 04:44 AM Share Posted 27/10/14 04:44 AM No your facts are wrong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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