Another Tyre Comparison Thread

[Bizkets is Drunk?]

Just had the nittos invos fitted today and I must say its reall slippery on take off. 100km drive ahead they might get a bit more grippy hopefully. My atr's were grippy from the start so ill see what happens. Anyone had this happen?

[rednose]

Normal, give em 500 - 1000 klms and you'll be very impressed.<br /><br />Awesome tyres

[Spoony]

I've just been reading the legislation. Looks like the tyre shop stuffed me around claiming that the 235/45 are illegal... my tyre placard says 245/45R17 95W.. the ATR2 is 235/45/17 97XL therefore the speed rating is the same (W or 270kph for both) and the 235 actually has a higher load rating 730kg vs 690kg.

QLD transport says tyres can be up to 70% narrower than placard as long as speed and load ratings aren't less than recommended.

Should I go back and the get 235/45 ATR2 fitted instead? They're $80 cheaper all up and the newer compound.

Yep. The 2s are far better in all regards. Noise, grip, wear etc.

I run 235s instead of the stock 245s (18s BFiis) and still much better than 245,ATR 1s.

They even have 245 in stock size now but $200 more a set, meh 235s will do.

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[Lennox]

What's the reason for going for thinner tyres?

Edit: should read posts in full. As you were.

Edited 25/01/14 09:20 AM by Lennox

[Z2TT]

Yes sometimes tyres need time to wear in, my Michelin Pilot Super Sports took about 200km before they gripped the best.

In the wet I was impressed by the Pilot Super Sports, you could give it a small bit of acceleration and still maintain some grip.

It appears like Continental are getting a good rep recently out of nowhere, I don't know if its marketing or the new range of tyres is working well for people, might be a tyre to consider.

Edited 25/01/14 09:31 AM by Z2TT

[jabtronic]

What's the reason for going for thinner tyres? Edit: should read posts in full. As you were.

Yeah for future reference, Achilles ATR Sport 2 tyres currently don't come in the correct size for the 17" wheels on a FG XR6T ute (18" and higher are fine I think). The correct size is 245/45R17.

I didn't find this out until after the tyre shop fitted the older 1st gen ATR Sports on my car instead, assuming that I didn't care about the difference.

I'm still not sure if I want to get the ATR2 fitted with the smaller 235/45 profile, the diameter is only 9mm smaller than standard and I have actually been running 235/45R17 since owning the car anyway. I went back to tyre shop today, argued with the owner about the legality of fitting them (proved him wrong in front of customers). In the end I can take the car back and get the ATR2s fitted if I want to (they're also $80 cheaper for a set)

[Spoony]

Like I said, ATR2's are definitely better! 235 or 245 isn't really going to be a noticeable thing, but the tyre model it self will be.

[jabtronic]

Yeah theres one issue though, I had 235/45s on the car since I purchased it 12 months ago and I've been having numerous TC and ABS errors randomly occur in the last few months. The diagnostics tool always says it is the front right wheel sensor but I have swapped it out and the error remained.

The errors haven't occurred since putting the 245/45 on so I'm starting to think that the incorrect tyre size was the cause

[threeta]

only on 18s, but my 02c - agree with you mostly Spoony

Nitto Invo (260 treadwear) - just new 1000km

- love them

- Great wet and dry grip both launching and cornering.

- Really quiet

- Price - $1200 from Hyper Drive (NZD)

Achilles ATR Sport 2 (400 treadwear)

- Good dry grip and the wet is not bad,

- Great bang for buck tyre.

- Noise bad when half worn - so bad its annoying

- Mileage is up around 30,000 - wore out shoulder and tyre founation showed through. approx 4mm remaining.

- $1000 Performance tyres (auckland)

- wet grip all gone when 4mm left - they got so bad they were dangerous on standard xr6t. so maybe 40000 but I was too scared to try...

[Spoony]

jab, Only time I've had had such issues, which showed up by the gearbox not shifting past 3rd in 'auto' was due to the standard spare on the front left with the stock 245/40/18's! haha. Different diameter across axles can cause it, I think only on the front but not 100%. I've run different sizes front to rear with issue, and 235/40/18 vs 245/40/18 hasn't been an issue. The rolling height difference is almost just the tread wear new to old on a 245 anyways.

Threeta,

Wow $1000 for ATR2's, poor kiwi's. I paid $500 AUD a set a month ago. Haven't priced Invo's but I have no doubt they'd be at minimum double the price and for me not worth it given I need tyres near ever 6 months.