ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 18y 7m 24d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 31/07/13 12:03 PM Share Posted 31/07/13 12:03 PM the new valve could have been bent from broken engine pieces after the fact, any bent valve would not have sealed properly from the time of being bent and you would have had running issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueprintbullet Donating Members 163 Member For: 16y 10m 17d Gender: Male Location: Wanneroo Posted 31/07/13 12:26 PM Author Share Posted 31/07/13 12:26 PM So I guess I check the valves don't leak and then remove them to see if they are bent? Remember these valves have without doubt made serious contact with the pistons I would be more surprised if they were strait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 18y 7m 24d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 31/07/13 12:32 PM Share Posted 31/07/13 12:32 PM don't get me wrong about doubting they may have hit in the past, but there is no way they can be bent and give you no indication of poor running as they could not seal even if very slightly bent, even if there was 1 slightly bent valve the car would feel like it is running on 5 cylinders and the valve would be burnt if continued to run it for any period of time, you need even compression for the engine to run smooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueprintbullet Donating Members 163 Member For: 16y 10m 17d Gender: Male Location: Wanneroo Posted 31/07/13 12:43 PM Author Share Posted 31/07/13 12:43 PM I agree if there was any loss of compression it would likely run poor, but the bend in these valves is only slight and the spring weight alone has been bending them shut finally resulting in the catastrophic failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PookeyMaster Donating Members 1,531 Member For: 14y 1m 1d Gender: Male Location: Parramatta, NSW Posted 31/07/13 02:30 PM Share Posted 31/07/13 02:30 PM I'd contact Ford HQ again, you'll know for sure whether they contacted Ford then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueprintbullet Donating Members 163 Member For: 16y 10m 17d Gender: Male Location: Wanneroo Posted 31/07/13 10:14 PM Author Share Posted 31/07/13 10:14 PM (edited) As it stands I have now formalised it in writing and given them the opportunity to repair the vehicle, from here I will contact ford hq I will also contact the motor trade association and start to proceed with plans to go to court, this will also require me to have the engine thoroughly examined with a report on there findings. This report will hopefully prove the valves have no leak down, that they have not seized in the head, that the marterials have not been overheated and that the rest of the valves are also bent. Can someone tell me if when the guide broke which one was it and would they have replaced it with a different type to what was originally fitted. I'm not going to give up on this as I don't feel that what has happened is right, thanks too all for there help and support I only hope that I get what is right Edited 31/07/13 10:18 PM by blueprintbullet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 18y 7m 24d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 31/07/13 10:59 PM Share Posted 31/07/13 10:59 PM I agree if there was any loss of compression it would likely run poor, but the bend in these valves is only slight and the spring weight alone has been bending them shut finally resulting in the catastrophic failure.I want to make it clear that I wish you good luck with getting it repaired, but my opinion which could be wrong, is I don't think that scenario is really a possibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 18y 7m 24d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 31/07/13 11:02 PM Share Posted 31/07/13 11:02 PM all the guides that we have seen break, the entire guide does not break, the top part of the plastic slider on the guide that the tensioner pushes on breaks off, approx. 15-20 mm of plastic, the guide is still intact and keeping tension on the chain, we have always used genuine guides to replace them as that was the only choice we had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueprintbullet Donating Members 163 Member For: 16y 10m 17d Gender: Male Location: Wanneroo Posted 31/07/13 11:32 PM Author Share Posted 31/07/13 11:32 PM Ok thanks mate was hoping you would reply that question. Still hoping to prove you wrong on the valves leaking though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 18y 7m 24d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 31/07/13 11:34 PM Share Posted 31/07/13 11:34 PM I'll take no offence to that 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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