Tyres

[NYOPA]

HI Everyone

I have been doing a lot of reading on the sort of tyres that are available, and quiet frankly am completly confused

SO I have thought of an idea and thought I would share it with you.....

That is a tyre shoot out, we all need new tyres at some point and I for one would like to know which ones are the best for my car. As some posts here have pointed to a car mag shootout using a Expensive Daewoo as the test car. They also found that tyres other than the standard are better for that vehicle.

I am not interested on how fast I can go around a corner or take off from a set of lights..... but I do want to know how fast I can stop if a kid runs out in front of me.Lets face it, how many of us actually push there car to the point where the car is about to slide... hopefully we are all more responsible than that on public roads!

The alarming thing in the Expensive Daewoo shoot out was the huge difference in stopping distance from 80km......In real terms it was the difference between missing the child or collecting the whole 3rd grade, I know which tyre I would be choosing.

So.. whilst I have no experience with testing, driving or organising such a thing, maybe a few people who have could add a post and let me know your suggestions.

Being in sales myself I am sure that with our current membership and all the XR's that are currently moving off the lots in Australia every tyre manufacturer would be itching to get a piece of the pie???? (except maybe dunlop)

I guess there are 2 ways to do this:-

1 we lobby a car mag to do it for us

2 (the most likely one) we do it ourselves.

PLease let me know any thoughts you have on this as I do a lot of driving a year (40K) and see a lot of stupid things that I need to avoid.

my 2 cents worth, thanks for reading

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  NYOPA said:

... hopefully we are all more responsible than that on public roads!

NOPE!!

There's still a bit of child in all of us! Some more than others

Not a bad idea, I hope you can pull it off!

My 2c worth, Hankook K104's are great, great tyre, great value.

[KrasH]

I think there was a review on tyres in wheels or motor mag and they used an XR6 turbo (I am sure) Buggered if I remember which month, but I'm sure I have it.

UPDATE: Found the issue. They used an XR6 N/A for the testing. It's the January 2003 issue of Motor Mag.

ok. They reviewed 17" tyres The ladder according to them.. using various criteria like dry/wet laps, dry/wet braking etc.

1st - Dunlop Formula FM901 - Driver prefered in wet and driver preference overall. Also performance + Driver preference winner. (using their scaling)

2nd - Pirelli P Zero Nero - Dry braking winner

3rd - Bridgestone Potenza S-03

4th - Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 - Wet laps, wet braking wet overall 1st.

5th - Firestone S250

6th - Hancook Ventus K107 - 1st in Performance/price scale

7th - Michelin Pioloy Peceda - Driver Prefered in dry + dry overall (dry lap etc)

8th - BF Goodrich Profiler G

9th - Avon zz3

10th - Toyo Trampio GU:WN

11th - Simex SM9300

12th - Kumho Ecsta supra 712

13th - Federal 589

Edited 18/01/04 12:18 AM by KrasH

[NYOPA]

well didnt that just save a sh t load of time

Great work Krash... I know what to look for when I'm buying rubber

[sharkey]

I remember reading that review and, soon after having to replace the Dunlop 9000s on my AUII XR8. I rang my local tyre places looking for the FM901s but couldn't find them. Until one place had them but recommended another Dunlop tyre which was superior to the FM901. He said that in fact this tyre had the same grip and handling characteristics as the 9000 but had less road noise and was quite a bit cheaper. In fact he showed me the Dunlop training charts and diagrams.

Needless to say I fitted the tyre he recommended and would have to say after 25000km on them I thought they were as good as the 9000.

That tyre was the 3000a - the standard XR6 tyre.

[Zeke]

Just lucky you got 4 round ones - without tread (or is it band?)separation and without side wall cracks!

Cheers

zeke

[Falchoon]

I find I need to sus stuff like this out for myself as what suits Joe (or Josephine) doesn't neccessarily suit me. Not just talking about tyres, just products (non-car ones as well) in general. I have been caught several times buying a product on reccommendation from a friend who thought it was the bee's knee's and when I've got it home found it not up to expectation.

[Antisocial]

NYOPA from memory Wheels Mag also tested tyres with the turbo rather than the n/a in Motor mag, a few months later. I will find it and post the details.

Update:

Wheels did the same in June 2003.

However they only tested 235/45/17 in the approx $330 range.

1 Michellin Preceda

2 Bridgestone S-03

3 Toto T1-S

4 Yokohama A539

5 Dunlop FM901

6Goodyear GSD3

7 Pirelli P7

out of curiosity they also tried an 'elcheapo' tyre to see if there was savings to be had...

Silverstone FTZ ..but were very poor in braking specs.

Now you are even more confused because mich's came 7th in one and 1st in other and similar wierdness with the Dunlops.

Pm me if you want me to fax a copy of the articles and you can judge for yourself.

[Antisocial]

I edited the 'last post' but the time did not update ...now it will.

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  YCL said:

Now you are even more confused because mich's came 7th in one and 1st in other and similar wierdness with the Dunlops.

Just goes to show how F#$ked up these sort of tests are doesn't it!

My advice, drive someone else's T who has the tyres you are wanting, if there isn't anyone around with them then get some yourself and let us try 'em! If they're sh@t put 'em in the trading post!

All the hype and marketing that surrounds tyres is always going to sway the salesman, so there's only one way to know for sure, "trial and error".