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  • Sucker
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More key points for you Dags:

- Ford US

- pre-tax

- on a turnover of 36 billion

- after tax profit of 1.8 bill, or 5% profit.

That's pretty slim and is nothing extraordinary from a shareholder's perspective

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So it's cool to have a stupidly gross profit margin by using under paid workers in foreign countries whilst putting hard working Australians out of a job that some have dedicated most of their life too.

The average worker on the line that makes up most of the employee base would be on $800-$900 a week.

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$800-$900 a week is still pretty friggin okay for a relatively unskilled workforce..

I know plenty of uni qualified blokes who started out on $700 odd per week with no Overtime or anything outstanding..

With cost of manufacturing in australia it's only a matter of time before everything is outsourced and we'll be 100% reliant on our cheaper waged neighbouring countries..

A comedian the other night summed it up perfectly when he said Australia is waterskiing behind the ski boat that is china's cheap workforce.

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Dags I think you're completely missing the point, yes a profit of several billion sounds huge in dollar terms but contrast it against the amount of turnover and capital and it's really fck all.

A company's performance is ultimately judged on the earnings per share...Ford US shares are currently $16.70 and that article you linked to mentions earnings of $0.31. A return of 1.85%. That is fckn peanuts no matter how you look at it and no wise investor would be happy with that.

Currently a Level 1 non-trade Ford employee is on a base pay of $1021.45 per week, plus a sh*tload of allowances and conditions that are unheard of in the real world. The award specifies $622.20 per week for the same level.

Now why aren't the local plants profitable??? :blink:

Sources if you're bored:

Award: https://extranet.deewr.gov.au/ccmsv8/ExternalDocument.aspx/BYREF/0928875289550075488889912894/216381/MA000089.htm#P1558_148461

Ford EBA (p28): http://www.fwc.gov.au/documents/agreements/fwa/AE896758.pdf

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Unions are burying this country at a rapid rate. They have killed Qantas and helped the demise of Ford Australia. They don't realise that making businesses unprofitable will end up putting there members in the dole que.

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Why dont Ford ditch there dealer network and sell directly online.Cut out the middle man.Sounds silly but we did it with our company and we have now established our own network of sales.Its the new age and people are driven by the dollar..

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Probably another reason is that the majority of Ford dealers are pretty poor at selling a good product, most ones here in Perth that I went to had no idea what they were on about, crap sales skills, could not describe features of car and differences between options/trims, only 1 decent salesman of nearly all dealers I went to.

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Ditching dealer network means contracting Deliveries, Contracting Service/Warranty works (imagine if Ultratune or worse Pingtune got a contract)

Dealer network with korean cars seems the better option in my books.

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Ford and Expensive Daewoo shouldve axed the commadore and Falcon and bought back the Cortina and Torana the govt should not prop up business as they say u need to make a product that ppl will buy

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