Proposed Tougher Hoon Laws For Qld

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They posted this update this arvo...

In the latest correspondence from Qld Police it has confirmed that driving an illegally modified vehicle is considered to be a Type 2 Hooning Offence, which could see your vehicle being impounded or confiscated.

Which goes on to finish with...

The Bill is expected to be passed in Parliament tomorrow…

So essentially if you are driving a modified vehicle, even unknowingly, they don't necessarily have to give you a defect notice that you then get rectified...just park the fcking thing up and walk home. And you can collect your car in a few months, unless there's history then you may never see it again.

These guys are trying their hardest to make a difference but are essentially getting nowhere. It's an absolute bloody disgrace.

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[Bonjaz]

Might as well sell up now boys

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Overnight Qld roads became the safest in the country. Our road toll will now I assume be significantly reduced.

For everyone else outside Qld you too should be scared as this will be on it's way for you too.

Minister for Police and Community Safety

The Honourable Jack Dempsey

Wednesday, April 17, 2013

Australias toughest hooning laws passed

Queensland will now see serial hoons vehicles sold or crushed sooner after the Newman Government passed the countrys toughest anti-hooning penalties in last night.

The new penalties will see people committing two serious hooning offences have their car confiscated indefinitely as part of changes to the Police Powers and Responsibilities (Motor Vehicle Impoundment) and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2012.

Police Minister Jack Dempsey said Queenslanders were fed up with dangerous hooning on public roads and wanted the brakes put on the perpetrators.

Hooning such as racing and driving recklessly in the suburbs is not only socially unacceptable, it is outright dangerous and places the lives of all road users at risk, Mr Dempsey said.

In the past we have even seen hoons lose control of their vehicles before ploughing into yards and houses injuring and, in some cases, taking the lives of innocent people.

The community and the Government were sick and tired of hoons and these new penalties will see their cars off the road for 90 days for the first offence, and confiscated and sold or crushed if they commit a second hooning offence within a five year period.

The two strikes approach will apply to those committing Type 1 offences which include:

Dangerous operation of a motor vehicle

Racing and speed trials on roads

Wilfully starting a motor vehicle or driving a motor vehicle in a way that makes unnecessary noise or smoke

Evade police

Mr Dempsey said the new laws would address frustration in the community which, under the previous government, continued to see hoons back on the road even after multiple offences.

Under Labor more than 92 per cent of vehicles previously impounded ended up back on the road, he said.

We are telling the people of Queensland that the police now have the legislative tools to truly put the brakes on hoons. If theres a local hooning issue they should contact their local police station or the Hoon Hotline on 13HOON (13 4666).

While the hooning laws have now been passed through State Parliament, they wont come into effect for six months to allow sufficient time for logistics to be finalised and community education about the new penalties as requested by the Legal Affairs and Community Safety Committee.

[ENDS] 17 April 2013

And a nice little flow-chart to show how easy it is for you to be raped all at the absolute discretion of the police, if you disagree then you can elect to take it to court or whatever...but still obviously be without your vehicle until the case is heard.

http://statements.qld.gov.au/Content/MediaAttachments/2013/pdf/Proposed%20VIP.pdf

In summary there are two types of offences, type 1 takes you straight to 90 day impoundment and then second offence within five years will have you waving goodbye to your vehicle forever. Type 2 offences bring no impoundment for the first, seven days for the second, then 90 days, then forfeiture.

So if you want to get rid of your vehicle it's as simple as for example "Wilfully starting a motor vehicle or driving a motor vehicle in a way that makes unnecessary noise or smoke" twice in five years.

And surprisingly the slimy cnt still hasn't responded to my email seeking proper data/statistics to support such draconian legislation.

[Never had any say Panda]

Is there anything anywhere yet about financial reimbursement for people who have their vehicles sold/crushed?

Also.. I got done for Excessive Noise/Smoke back in 2008 (Shoot me I'm a frikking rapist/murderer obviously)..

I wonder if that 5 year period comes into effect from now..

Edited 16/04/13 11:34 PM by Slightly Depressed Panda

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It applies retrospectively, so yes you're on the edge.

There's supposed to be a provision to allow for damages where a car is forfeited in error or that belongs to someone else, but not sure on the finer details. Is that what you mean?

edit...but not if it’s your own vehicle. Tough titties. Doesn't matter if you own it outright or owe $100k on it. Unsure what that means for a secured loan where the lender has a registered interest in the vehicle.

Edited 16/04/13 11:42 PM by tab

[ms700]

*shrekus rubs crystal ball and looks into the future*

gumbyment confiscates all modified cars 10 years from now, and only has prius' driving on roads. road toll is still the same as it was 10 years ago. still the same amount of drink driving convictions, speeding fines etc being handed out. hmm, time to ban all cars.

[Never had any say Panda]

It applies retrospectively, so yes you're on the edge.

There's supposed to be a provision to allow for damages where a car is forfeited in error or that belongs to someone else, but not sure on the finer details. Is that what you mean?

edit...but not if it’s your own vehicle. Tough titties. Doesn't matter if you own it outright or owe $100k on it. Unsure what that means for a secured loan where the lender has a registered interest in the vehicle.

So if it's your own vehicle you're effectively being fined $40k+..

Wonder if you can claim it as a write off/stolen on your insurance policy?

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Doubt it. I think your comprehensive insurance is null and void once you break the law.

[ms700]

yeah it is if you go dui.

any chance the insurance companies can get, to not pay out a claim, they will.

[aussie_dozer]

So what happens if you’re not driving your own vehicle ?

Say you borrowed one off a mate and chirped the wheels, but that was your second offense?

Do they confiscate that vehicle or your own ?

Plus, doen't some debt follow the car ? that would mean the new owner would have to pay out the money owing on the vehicle ?

Edited 17/04/13 04:43 AM by aussie_dozer